i dunno what you guys are talking about. universal is the shit.
"M-Stak can help increase anabolism via protein synthesis and nitrogen retention. M-Stak can help shuttle more of the calories you eat into lean mass, not body fat (nutrition-partitioning), making this product ideal for those lifters looking for lean gains"
So you NEED to EAT with this supplement. Animalpak never said replace food with this supplement and you will grow. Food and this supp go hand in hand so chill the fuck out.
i used m-stak for quite some time and along side the pak and pump i found it to be a decent combination. A bit on the expensive side but i could see the results IMHO. Also...i could have just been the placebo effect since we all know that the mind is the greatest...supplement so to speak. But, as the members above have said, they are not worth squat if you don't eat, train correctly and rest.
Universal is thee most legit company out there! They're one of very few companies that do a 100% check of the raw materials they put in their supps. Anyone who has taken animal pak knows it's one of the best multis on the market not to mention a great deal! look at the ingredients in supps like torrent(which advocate alot, sorry, it's just a great product!) 3 kinds of creatine+20 g protein+electrolytes+packed with glutamine and a few other AAs...is there a better post work out??? not to mention 6lbs for 55$?? WOW!
Hard Fast can't even list all the bombdigity shit in it but check it out!