Hard to say at this point.
It's not fair to compare Phil all time best with Jay's worst in 5 years.
Anyway, Jay is much heavier than Phil, Phil may get sharper than Cutler in some areas, but as some guys said, in bodybuilding SIZE MATTERS.
Of course Phil aesthethics are supreme and so on, but to me it's the same as Flex vs Dorian in 1993, aesthethics vs mass... and you know what option have been and is in front.
when you say simmetry, it's about MUSCLE simmetry.
cutler is in another league.
phil's never gonna beat jay(i hope) unless he gains an additional amount of size.
why do you tink ronnie won 8 times an should have deserved the 9th?
do you think he didn't deserved it? i don't think so.
IF Jay comes in shape, he will beat Phil. That is a big IF. His 2006 conditioning was pretty good, I don't know if he'll ever look like he did in 2001.
If Jay is off, Phil beats him because we know Phil is going to be in shape.
Cutler blows Phil Heath off the stage right now due to his amount of mass. If Cutler nails his conditioning, nobody can touch him.
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.
He could come in to the Mr.O at close to 250lbs this year with a little luck.
He's far from blocky..but having the pics from Arnold last year next to the pics from this years Ironman....then he is a mass monster already IMO
I think Phil looked great in those pics, but like others have said, mass wins out at the Olympia. Jay's back would dwarf Phil's back (right now at least) no matter how much symmetry & aesthetics Phil has. Bottom line is Cutler is just bigger. Coupled with correct conditiong (in which Jay admitted he was way off last year), Cutler wins out every time.
Yeah the only thing not working 100% for him is his obliques...they thend to stick out a little. But its not a problem right now. I can see Phil carry 250-260 without sacrificing his waist