Yep, they're dangerous also. Although some may not agree with me on some of these, here's some alternate exercises:
- Flys (incline, flat, etc.)
- Pullovers (barbell or dumbbell)
- Weighted push-ups (wide, triangle, legs elevated)
- DB hammer, close grip press (incline or flat)
This should do some good. Pullovers are probably the least effective listed, just giving ya variety. My chest days never consist of dips, they're usually on tricep days- this shows it's not a staple and you don't need to worry :)
I'm going to disagree with KM here. Personally I rate dips a great deal, I love doing heavy weighted sets and bodyweight sets. In my opinion they are a far superior exercise to flyes and pullovers since they're a) a multi-joint compound exercise, and b) they're one of those great exercises you can do anywhere.
I'd love to know why KM thinks they are dangerous? Every exercise can be dangerous if done incorrectly. Dips are perfectly safe if you do them with proper form.
I love dips but the bars need to be stable, and you have to be mindfull of depth.
I don't see much value in flys, especially DB's, due to the muscle recruitment patterns.
BB and DB bench variations, like one armed, close grip, neutral grip, reverse grip.
Pushups are great and there are many variations, although most research shows that the different hand positions have little effect. With pushups you can also add weight to your back but you have to get your body position flat which means you need good mid section strength.
I'm not saying I dislike dips, so re-read my post please. I love dips, I was giving alternate exercises instead of dips. I'm not rating any one of them better in the least bit.
Did you read the thread title?
He can't do dips. I gave alternate examples of exercises in replacement, not in terms of superiority.
I've only done them a couple of times and haven't read any decent material on them. Both these things have failed to convince me of their value as an exercise. Put another way, I think flys have more value.Originally Posted by youngmusclejock
But this is just an opinion as I haven't researched these (unlike other exercises I comment on). I know old time lifters loved this exercise.
Secondly, read the response before my initial post. He stated that chair dips are hard to do, and asked for other alternatives, that being where I said they were dangerous.
Don't just read small pieces.
I'm not trying to get into an argument over semantics here though, just defending a good exercise.
And yes, I agree that bench dips are mainly for tris. I wasn't sure weather he was talking about a specific muscle group til I re-read and saw the chest tri-set comment.