Hey, I'm going to respond here so others can view this.
At 6'1 180, I think you can add a lot more size without these products. But if you are set on using steroids I would start with H-Drol (it's one of the ingredients in Rage). I don't think you need to go anywhere near Rage, anytime soon. Perfect starter cycle below
AI Cycle support 1 week preload 1 scoop
2 scoops throughout cycle and first week of PCT
AI PCS 0/0/4/4/4/4
Now i am all new to all of this and dont know how to break all of the compounds down but the ingredients on the bottle are:
4 cchloro 17a methyl androst-1, 4dene 17b-ol 25mg**
2a, 17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol 10mg**
Other ingredients: rice flour, magnesium Stearate
How do you get H-drol
PrizeFighter is right that you should start off with something smaller, but the idea that this is gonna kill your liver is a little overblown. We have to understand that the liver heals itself once the product is gone, thats why it takes alcoholics years and years and years to develop liver problems..... not 4-5 weeks.
As far as Rage goes, yeah stay away save it for when you need something that strong. I know a lot of guys who use the real stuff that will use Rage in place of dbol because its that strong.
Better safe than sorry is my motto.
i understand your comments about him being not solid and I completely agree with tim. Alll the guy needs to do is eat and lift and he'd be fine. But I still think your missing the point and have been way too informed by all of these pro-horomone forums out there and The stuff about your liver. Your liver heals on it on, this is my point. So lets say you do take an oral for that amount of time, yes its possible to have messed up blood levels during that time, but by simply dropping the product your liver will heal itself. This is why I referred to Alcoholics using and abusing alcohol constantly for years and years to get actual liver damage. This cant be done with a metyl even if your blood levels are way off, the perm damage has to take a lot of time to set in. Point blank, guys like Arnold in the old days ran dbol for like 12weeks. Am I saying this is smart to do..... absolutely not and its best for your health to avoid messing up your blood levels, but the chances of you causing perm damage to your liver is something that just gets blown around on all those ph forums. Liverdeathatrol??? I think not.
I have already laid out a pretty damn good (if not perfect) starter cycle for you.