I dont know why ANYBODY ever gets caught up in numbers on body fat. Seriously. I've seen guys who are 2-3 % lower body fat than I am and I will still look leaner. Body building has no point criteria based on body fat estimates. Use those numbers (I personally just go my the mm pinches) as a rate of progress but by no means should be a absolute figure, ever. Until you can scrape the fat off of a corpse, there is no need to argue. I have seen gymnasts get numbers below zero using hydrostatic weighing, which still remains the top 1-2 methods in terms of accuracy. Use body fat numbers as a means of progress and the rest of the argument should be purely visual. After all thats all bodybuilding is.
great post creator i agree completely. i'm not grabbing my numbers out of thin air or just guessing, i was calipered 3 times and each time came back the same result. but like you said, it means nothing onstage, all that matters is what you look like. anyways nice post man and again i agree that it's a good means of really only measuring progression.
If they get numbers below zero, then the machine wasn't calibrated properly, it's as simple as that.
Going by pinches is fine if you use it as a measure of progression, as you did say, but the goal of bodybuilding is to be as lean as possible, and not reach a certain percentage to be fixated on, I agree. But if Duality thinks he was 5% body fat with visible fat still to lose on his abs, I'd be curious what percent he thinks 1) the guy that Essensen posted is and 2) what Munzer is?
Mvsf1>> He's 173cm and about 71-72kg right now.
Some of the discussion about the bodyfat levels.Quote
you're starting to become pathetic james. several competitors at my gym, LEGIT competitors (one placed 4th at the 04 jr, nationals) thought my approach was a good idea and that i came in in acceptable shape and placed well do to my structure and comparably better conditioning than the other heavyweights. and after seeing how insane the light heavies were, i am very pleased with my decision. in my next show i'll have to take it to another level as a heavyweight. meaning, coming in in fantastic shape as a heavy, which i will do.
MY APPROACH WORKED. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD. COME TO TERMS WITH IT, AND DEAL WITH IT, AND STOP ANNOYING ME. kthanx.
Duality you did great and realize that most of people saying stupid shit have never even posted pics (or if they did they weren't legitimate full body mandatory poses) let alone done a competition. Don't let it get to you. Now move forward and continue to progress and learn by trial and error because no one's body reacts the same. Best of luck.
thank you very much. i'm very happy with my placing but not at all satisfied. i want more. the only place to go is up! a lot of friends and family want to come to my next show and that's even more motivation to look even better. i seriously cannot wait to do another show.
lol. i've given you pictures in every way imaginable. mandatories, gym shots, training shots, model shots. you know what i look like.
i don't have the pictures and don't know when i will. if i get them, and i like them, i'll post them. turk never posted his stage shots and you all seemed to be fine with that weird.....