I was saying that msvf1 was being a dick because he ignored your post and attacked mine again. If he had just read yours he would have understood, like you had, what I was saying.
You got it
msvf1 didn't get my point as is continuing to attack rather than be nice.
dilatedmuscle just likes to make snide remarks.
Yes of course people have noticed. He has had this imbalance for years and he seems to have done little to rectify the situation. You'll also notice his right leg is noticeably smaller too, although less so this year.
He hides it well in his poses, but in the manditories it is very obvious, like these photos.
I'll admit he came in with amazing conditioning, etc but I still think that his overall physique is ugly. He might win the mass game but his lines are nowhere near as good as the likes of Dex and Phil.
1) Please, read my post once again. I'm not attacking you at all, I'm discussing. I mean, why is important that guys like Phil or Kai progressed during the night and Jay did not? That's not a valid point IMO. Cutler didn't had to improve during the night just because he was a mile in front of the rest. Phil was sick and he needed to improve; Kai was a little bit watery and he needed to improve. Jay displayed his best phisique ever and he didn't need to improve. Remember Mr Olympia is mostly judged on the first night.
2) Please, answer CLEARLY these questions (YES/NO):
2.1 Was Jay the best this year?
2.2 Were the judges right giving him the win?
2.3 Do you think The Creator is wrong (he said Jay blew away the comp.)?
2.4 Do you think this was the best Jay ever?
Thanks in advance for your answers.
So let me get this straight: you are not attacking my posts by insinuating that my point is right yet it is wrong because you don't think that Jay needed to have any observations made upon him after pre-judging.........Quote
A discussion would have been more along the lines of: Well Tim I happen to think that from the pictures he actually held most of the condition he brought in pre-judging but was always going to lose a bit. No one can hold that insane conditioning!!
Then I would have said: Yes you are probably right, but his scores don't reflect this and it would be good if they did. He had the competition won anyway, scores could reflect what we were seeing a bit more as they did with Phil.
You didn't discuss, you were being righteous :footmouth:
How clearly would you like it? So far you have failed to take your blinkers off to read. How about I answer in smilies?Quote
No thankyou for clarifying.Quote