I don't really see why this matters....
Kai does what it takes, by doing this he has an advantage as far as publicity is concerned and people who talk about how they don't like his posing give him more publicity. Think of someone who is only marginally interested in bodybuilding. To them, Kai Greene is an unrecognizable character because he doesn't look or behave like any other bodybuilder. He presents high marketing value because of these things, and he certainly has the physique to back it up. I wouldn't be surprised if he is given the Olympia.
I get what all of you mean when you say he's bringing something new and entertaining to the sport. And I can see how some would say Kai's posing is an art. But, really, with the posing the way it is, he's trying to bring art/something entertaining/whatever into a medium that doesn't really accept it. Kai's posing may be awesome to watch, but the bottom line is he's not effectively displaying his physique in a sport that demands it.
Personally, I wouldn't mind his "stripper style" posing if he held each pose for a few seconds longer rather than move from pose to pose in an attention-deficit sort of way.
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Sanctimonious? Possibly. But also note my comments on both sides of this argument, I'm not as partisan as my posts are being treated (oh how easy to address one part of a post and not the rest).Quote
I agree with your last two sentences, but the reality of the mainstream is a disparaging dicotomy of decency. Arbitary is exactly why BBers continue to battle for acceptance. The world hates pedos yet embraces 14yr old models, we hate liars and yet elect politicians to run our world, we love sex and yet nudity on TV is censored. It is in this world that BBing is on the fringes battling for acceptance. Tell me that we'll get into the Olympics and be accepted with Kai, tell me that the morning chat shows will do their background research on Kai and not ask and thus paint all BBers as ex-strippers.
I actually didn't think much of Kai's video, it was a bit of fun at a guest posing, bit entertaining, the audience liked it but thought it was a bit out there (or not what they were expecting, one of the two). He still doesn't hit his poses and display his physique and this sort of routine is not for competition (although this is a moot point now). Kai is working hard on his weaknesses and has grown on me a lot in the past 12 months. But whenever I see him wiggle I am immediately reminded of Papi's post
But it is also what makes a forum interesting. I agree though that there is a fine line to be trodden in this regard, and I need new glasses.Quote
I was thinking you'd be one of the few to notice/enjoy it.Quote
Actually that is a very good point. We are and are likely to continue to be rejected or maligned by the mainstream regardless of our image as a sport. The mainstream already has an image of gym enthusiasts (to the point were I had a work collegue suggest that I could take steriods) and they won't be changing it any time soon without another Arnie. I suppose to that extent we are our own culture and should instead be looking for recognition and acceptance 'warts and all'.Quote
To this end we probably should have a ground-swell movement to counter the current trend in fitness culture. We should be taking back the gyms, petitioning senators/congressmen/politicians to make sure they keep their hands off our supplements, we should be destroying the fitness infomercials and mainstream health advice; this is our world not theirs.
*Insert Braveheart rallying cry here*