Are there more convincing pictures and/or videos than what I'm seeing here -- I don't see Kai "running away with it" at all.
Well it is subjective but in what way does Phil win?
This is my opinion.
Side Chest: Kai (Some can argue Phil because of his arms, fullness and are although he doesnthave kais depther throughout the entire body)
Side Tri: Phil
Abs and Thighs: Kai.
Kai is far bigger than phil, keep in mind that during the comparisons around one foot closer to the camera and judges.
Check out this Flexonline video, Kai is closer to the camera so ignore the size discrepancy but look at the proportional depth Kai's body has: he is wider, deeper and his abs are as tight as phils and has a better V-Taper.
Kai Greene and Phil Heath 2012 Sheru Prejudging Comparisons | FLEX Online
Here are the final comparisons, The lighting blows and the cam is too far to see conditioning. LMAO Kai playing Phils game
You can't even see that Phil is not flexing his fuking arm in that shot? Really??
Don't be mad cus Phil is a 2x Mr O over your 2x fruit fuker.
Now the pic is brighter. Again this is how Phil's arm look when he's flexing. So yeah if you can't see that in the first pic where he's not, then you are blind. And you are know for that here on musclemecca. Think Jay's quad asymmetry back in 2008, lmao.
Yeah, look at the arms.
Which one is fully flexed and which one is not?
Your comment is so retarded, it's like me saying the same about the first pic of Kai.
"OMG wow look at Kai's arm! He looks softer and smaller!!!! omgz"
**** tkd pulled a CSI here...
Pil won.. not easily but he won MSVF1..
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at the o it was very close but i still had kai win by a very stict margin.
at the sheru it was close, but i think kai fairly deserved the win.
kai wins most of the poses. the only ones where i see phil prevail are rear lat spread, most muscular. the side triceps is even. maybe phil has a slight edge on the quarter turns, which everybody seems to forget about but they are judged.
anyway i prefer this sheru version of kai grrene: fuller although a bit less conditioned and still without th protuding gut
Kai arm look better than Phil's, much more aesthethic and the sime size. Anyway, that doesn't matter.
Kai looked BETTER than Phil, he was more conditioned, more separated, smaller waist, better posing, everything.
Phil won because he is the current Mr Olympia, that's all.
Oh, and the fruit-****er at least is 100% respectful with everybody, he NEVER acted like a douchebag.
Kai VS Phil at the Sheru was not a "close" competition. It was all subjective because i see Kai beating Phil here all day based on my personal view on bodybuilding. Kai didnt "barely lose" and Phil didnt "barely win" in my opinion, there was no close contest, it was all about the judges prefference. I must be a "Blind Kai fan" but i just really see him being a better/more dominant bodybuilder here.
Like i said before, Phil only takes the side tri and MM, everything else belongs to Kai.
And for those of you who thought it didnt make a difference that phil was standing closer to the judges and cameras at the Olympia (and Sheru prejudging). How the hell is phil shorter than Kai yet during the Olympia he is like 1.5" taller? C'mon... Take into consideration that height isnt the only factor, there is a difference in volume on an object the closer it gets to the camera, the ratios dont stay the same, this is a 3 dimentional world.
I guess the Kai fans feel like we did 2 years ago at the 2010 Arnold Classic when Phil should have won (was the best man on stage) but Kai did instead, and we've heard 1000 reasons for why, etc.
Deal with it guys, Kai will never win the Mr Olympia.
LOL @ tkD posting terrible pics of Kai
Phil beats Kai in the Side Tri and MM just like i said, Youre not changing any opinions by posting those two pics. In the FDB. Kai wasnt consistent with his waist but when he tightened it more, the V-taper was even greater than that pic showed although he still wins in that shot. What about Phils legs? They are all inner thigh, quads and hammies are not on par with Kais. The only time phils arms actually appear larger than Kais are in the MM and when he presses them against his body, when he pics his arms up, Kais swallows his.
Now lets do some tkD CSI ****.
Phils left arm compares to Kais left: Kai has bicep peak to spare
Kais right arm com to Phils right: the difference goes without saying
The ridge in which the Lats overlap the Teres Major: The ridge is much larger showeing that, not only was Kai wider, he had thicker lat to teres accumulation
Lat to center of back: Kais lats are not only thicker but you can see some striations going into the center of his back
Hamstrings: The difference is night and day, c'mon...
Ever heard the old adage, "Shows are won from the back". Kai Dominated here. I am not trying to point out this specific pose as the pose itself, I am comparing the FACT that Kai is the larger more dense bodybuilder... While having a better aesthetic FDB and FLS.
I thought Phil deserved to win the Olympia. I am not a blind fan. i saw Kai beating phil in the prejudging final comparison but he faded in the finals there for i felt Phil won on his ability to maintain his conditioning and fullness. But in this show i had Kai winning throughout. I am not delusional, i have made a rational argument to support my opinion but tkD would rather play favorites and chant "Na Na Na Nana, Phil won, fruit phucker lost" Seems childish. You can say im a crybaby Kai fan but im just calling it how i see it.
LMAO @ dilated. That was great haha!
@mvsf1: I've started to post those comparisons, because your post about that comparison between Phil and Kai, was like "wow look at that huge difference!!" when actually Phil was even hitting the bicep, that's all. And I hate it when someone doesn't know the differences it can make a different angle, or a pose not being hit 100% etc. Especially for veteran members with 6+ years of "experience" on the boards.
Then, because of all this annoying nuthugging for Kai, I thought you said before that Kai deserved to win the O as well. That's why I said he won't win an O. After all, like I stated before, we're in the same situation like the Arnold 2010, back when, again, the rivalry between Kai vs Phil fans were going crazy on the boards. With that said bb'ing is a subjective "sport", so in my opinion Phil is better. ^^
And even if I am not a Kai fan, I will give him props for the last showings, where he proved he can be not only in top condition but with good lines and flow in some poses.