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    Originally posted by Line
    I was half-joking. The reality is he didn't want her to grow up at all, as he was still enamored with the image of his daughter when she was an innocent adolescent, likely due to his character not being able to watch her grow up those years he was away.
    she still WAS an innocent adolescent. what else do you call a 17 year old virgin who's not even a senior in high school yet? a lot of parents struggle with seeing their children grow up. liam's character wasn't unique in this aspect. his backround of being a CIA agent, or whatever he was, i don't think the movie says anything specific other than he was a "preventer", played a large, no, all the role in him initially not wanting her to go overseas. of course a parent wants to see their child have fun.....safely. not even being a father i can totally commiserate with his not wanting her to go.

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    Hence him trying to pull strings so she could live out her tween fantasy of being a singer as well as her virginity being a thematic focal point of the film.
    pull strings? he asked for advice dude, that's it. he was brushed off, saved the life of the singer, who then offered liam's character lessons for his daughter. that's not pulling strings that's the singer reciprocating the best she can for what was a heroic act that was done expecting nothing in return. that wasn't him trying to relive her (even) younger years, he was just thinking of his daughter :dunnodude: fathers do that you know





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    Quote Originally Posted by Duality View Post
    she still WAS an innocent adolescent. what else do you call a 17 year old virgin who's not even a senior in high school yet? a lot of parents struggle with seeing their children grow up. liam's character wasn't unique in this aspect. his backround of being a CIA agent, or whatever he was, i don't think the movie says anything specific other than he was a "preventer", played a large, no, all the role in him initially not wanting her to go overseas. of course a parent wants to see their child have fun.....safely. not even being a father i can totally commiserate with his not wanting her to go.



    pull strings? he asked for advice dude, that's it. he was brushed off, saved the life of the singer, who then offered liam's character lessons for his daughter. that's not pulling strings that's the singer reciprocating the best she can for what was a heroic act that was done expecting nothing in return. that wasn't him trying to relive her (even) younger years, he was just thinking of his daughter :dunnodude: fathers do that you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka View Post
    Spot on.
    lol

    I'll respond thoroughly when I have more time.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Line View Post
    lol

    I'll respond thoroughly when I have more time.


    i'm not arguing that the film was superb or questioning your review based on scenes that actually happened. i highlight actually because your last post is a whole lotta speculation about a characters motives that are based primarily on cliches. your reading into things that really are what they are at face value and nothing more.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tim290280 View Post


    Well just wait for the remake, were they take the same characters and plot sequence and put it into middle America. Instead of dirt poor kids living in slums drawing on their life to become a millionaire, it will be a bunch of incredibly hot white kids from a upper middle class suburb that grab the limelight on a TV show and it is rigged so that they win.

    That will be just as a fullfilling movie without those pesky subtitles.


    I meant that the subtitles themselves were hard to read, not that i dont like subtitles. Sometimes they would have them the same color, green titles on green background, and they were small too so it was hard to read.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duality View Post
    i'm not arguing that the film was superb or questioning your review based on scenes that actually happened. i highlight actually because your last post is a whole lotta speculation about a characters motives that are based primarily on cliches not really not on any substance from the movie. your reading into things that really are what they are at face value and nothing more.
    Movies are rarely what they are at face value but, again, I was joking about him actually wanting to fuck his daughter. I'll argue my point on their strange relationship later.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Line View Post
    Movies are rarely what they are at face value but, again, I was joking about him actually wanting to fuck his daughter. I'll argue my point on their strange relationship later.

    true. but saying he was "enamored with his daughter when she was an innocent adolescent" based off of the fact that he bought her a karoke player (hey, he was an uninvolved dad, they make several points of saying this. he probably knew very little about his daughter, the one thing that came to mind was that she loved to sing, so, bingo, karoke player) is a bit of a stretch.

    also, saying he pulled strings to get his daughter in with that singer is also just wildely inaccurate. it was offered to him, just as the gig to be security at the concert was. he wasn't doing any of it for his daughter, only being thoughtful when he realized he was in the presence of a singer and that's what his daughter wanted. unless of course he only saved the singers life so she owed him one




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rageking View Post


    I meant that the subtitles themselves were hard to read, not that i dont like subtitles. Sometimes they would have them the same color, green titles on green background, and they were small too so it was hard to read.
    Ahh gotcha now. I hate that too

    Hey want to start a pointless argument anyway?


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    Yay for pointless arguments! The bread and butter of the internets!


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    Quote Originally Posted by El Freako View Post
    Yay for pointless arguments! The bread and butter of the internets!
    Is not x 1 million. Because you can't eat bread and butter on the internets.


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    I eat bread and butter while on the internets.... STOP SPLITTING HAIRS TIM! *cry cry*


    She really looks like someone set her face on fire and put it out with a bike chain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    I eat bread and butter while on the internets.... STOP SPLITTING HAIRS TIM! *cry cry*


    It's not splitting hairs. You can't even butter the bread through the internets.



    Hang on that is too logical an argument....... :umwtf:


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    She really looks like someone set her face on fire and put it out with a bike chain.


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    When I eat bread and butter on the internets I get butter and crumbs all over my keyboard...



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    Quote Originally Posted by tim290280 View Post
    Ahh gotcha now. I hate that too

    Hey want to start a pointless argument anyway?
    sounds like a great idea.


    i eat my bread toasted and with peanut butter on the internets :io:

    but we should really get back on topic

    watched godfather 2 last night, great movie :gaysign:


     


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    The Wind that Shakes the Barley: Interesting film and great insight into the Irish independance war. Cillian Murphy was pretty good, but overall the film felt a little bland given the topic matter. I liked the way they showed the IRA started fracturing into groups over what people thought was independance, and how that brought fellow members to square off.

    The Chronicles of Riddick: Our new DVD. I don't get a lot of the criticism of this film, mainly because people don't get ScFi.

    We Were Soldiers (Once): I like this film, especially the juxtaposition with the situation of the soldiers wives waiting at home. I've been trying to find the book to read, which hopefully has less American patriotism.


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