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    I've never trained shoeless, but I bet it's glorious
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    You should try it you'll fell just like THE OAK himself?
    Actually it's better than cumming!

    For my birthday my parents bought me a suit. We went into a menswear store and started to look around. Now I know my measures; height, weight, girths, all fairly accurately. Especially with doctors and physios pulling out the tape to measure me up while I was injured, they were all impressed......

    So I was a little suprised with my suit. You walk into a store and an attendant gives you a glance and shows you to a rack of jackets. I look at the size and say "Actually my chest is bigger than that." Sure enough he measures me up and thats what the tape said too, except he says "No that's about the right size, though some may be a better cut in a larger size."

    And he was right. All that hard work to have an extra couple of inches on the chest had not translated into a bigger suit size. Why? Well its not about the chest its about the way the suit sits, how it gathers, and thus hangs. So unless I was chasing one of those gayish 4-5 button suits then the chest size wasn't as important as the way it sat around my waist. In fact that was the main difference in the fit between the size I got (42") and the size I thought I should have (44"). Same with the pants, but that was due to the thighs and butt. "Much easier to take a waist in on a bigger size of pant than get the pants to sit right on thick legs." (Attendant quote).

    So what does this mean? Well it means that since I have reached roughly the size I mean to maintain for life, that any subtle changes will not affect the way the suit fits. So short of me ballooning up out of my 180-190lb weight range then I have that suit thing sorted.

    "But then why are you training Tim?" Well, take my warmup for deadlifts last night, cleans. I just love that feeling of power getting 110kg to the shoulder. Then the deadlifts and pullups double, what better way to know that nothing can stand in your way when you can lift anything off the ground and climb over any obstacle?!

    "Ok you like lifting, but don't you have goals?" Well yes, I want to get stronger, obviously. I have very little respect for physical weakness. I grew up on a farm where muscles came from hard labour and being strong. Its part of my no wraps, straps, or belts stand, your physique is a display of your power, not something you have to bandage together to display. Thats why my rack lockouts and grip work felt good to followup such a big double of deads and pullups.

    "But this is bodybuilding: What about physique goals?" Of course I'm not 100% happy with bits and pieces. I've had a chunk cut out of my hammy to stitch my knee together, so my hammys really need some extra work, which is why I was doing single leg stiff-leg deadlifts. My biceps kinda lean inwards, due to poor balance between the heads, so the finisher of curls with a wide grip came into play.

    I'm going to keep tinkering, enjoying and achieving for many years to come. I love to lift. I love the results. I love sharing my experience/s and knowledge. I also love knowing that I can keep doing this for the rest of my life, as long as I don't forget the mistakes of my past, and progress.


     



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    Great post, and an interesting read as always...I was particularly struck by this:
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    I have very little respect for physical weakness. I grew up on a farm where muscles came from hard labour and being strong. Its part of my no wraps, straps, or belts stand, your physique is a display of your power, not something you have to bandage together to display.
    I was curious awhile ago why you saw things like straps/belts as crutches that too many people use and I sensed some pride in your response about not using them. To be honest, I didn't grow up on a farm but I understand to a good degree your thoughts about necessary physical strength (I've moved furniture for a few years now).

    Honestly, good post explaining your views on training and your goals. I think something very few guys in here look into is at what point are they going to be more health oriented than simply improving their physical appearance. Kudos for achieving that already.


     


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    you do one legged stiff leg deadlifts? I do bodyweight exercises that work like a balance thing for me where i just stand on one leg keep it straight and go palms to the floor. I cant get past 10 reps(with no weight) without losing concentration and tumbling a bit. How do you go on them?


     


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    Good luck with your weightlifting goals mate, I wish you all the luck.

    I also grew up on a farm but I guess I look at Belts etc etc as tools, it's like how Shearers now use slings on there upper bodies, they no less hard core mutha f#*%#@ as far as thier workload, they are just ensuring quality of life after the working days are over.

    So for me, wraps, belts and straps are there to keep me in the game and when the playing/competeing days are over, I'm not a walking car wreck.

    I know with time you can build yourself up slowly to overcome most of these things but hey, who has time or patience these days.

    Good luck anyway mate, have you thought abot powerlifting as well. just a thought?


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    Cheers Line. I think sometimes knowledge and id get tied up tightly, so while I believe something and can back it up doesn't mean that it is 100% applicable to anyone else, as Pumba pointed out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pumba
    Good luck anyway mate, have you thought abot powerlifting as well. just a thought?
    Good points to back up my stuff! On the PLing thing, I have thought about it, but have always been disparaged by the equipment, and the lack of raw competitions (locally). I'll never be anything special at either PLing or WLing (state level) so the one that I think I'd enjoy competing in more was the one I thought I'd give a go at.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle
    you do one legged stiff leg deadlifts? I do bodyweight exercises that work like a balance thing for me where i just stand on one leg keep it straight and go palms to the floor. I cant get past 10 reps(with no weight) without losing concentration and tumbling a bit. How do you go on them?
    Bodyweight work is a great thing that I never appreciated fully until I did my knee. I got into the single leg stuff due to the massive atrophy (thus strength and size differences) of my legs. This allows balance and coordination, which you lose with atrophy and injury, and also strength with mobility and balance. So after 1.5yrs on the single leg stuff I'm doing them all weighted for 10-15 reps (dependant on week of cycle, this week was 10x35kg) without any really balance issues. Although I keep an upright support within arms reach just in case!

    Next week will be a backoff week; so taking 10-20% off the bar and doing similar reps, maybe more sets.

    Also have to start hunting down a part time job (if the job I've been offered is actually only a 15 month contract, and not permanent). I'm thinking I might pick up something at a gym in the evenings, which could prove interesting.


     


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    Gah, I have trouble with suits. May you never have to buy one again.

    I was doing some single-leg work directly after I rolled my ankle really bad for that same reason. My right calf has always been much larger than my left, and after I rolled my left ankle the problem got worse.

    I think I stopped doing the single-leg work because it was scary; I could still move a lot of weight with my calf but it was still obviously recovering (took almost a year to feel fine, and now two years later there's still a very slight size difference in the ankles). I would often have to intervene with my right leg to make sure I wasn't going to redo the injury. So for safety's sake I went purely to double-leg work until it got better (BW raises probably would have been OK and in retrospect I definitely should've done those).

    Then I completely forgot about doing single-leg calf work until I read your post on Tunen's wall and told Line we were doing them (he moaned for a while and then agreed). I'm going to try and incorporate single-leg a lot more and see if that helps even out my calves finally. Thanks for the inadvertant help!


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    ^^ No probs! I did my ankle playing footy. I taped it up and it eventually got strong enough to run around on without tape. So I know what you mean about unstable at the ankle.


     


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    That's good news; for a while I thought I had really resilient psycho-ankles. People are always saying, "Once you start using an ankle brace it's always going to need that support." I rolled my right ankle playing volleyball and needed to have it taped and it got better, and then the left ankle even worse while running and needed a brace for a month or so, then an ace bandage after that. Now I don't need anything on either...they're definitely weaker (especially my left) but I don't see any reason why you can't restrengthen your ankles enough after an injury to play sports without a brace.


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    Love the suit log entry...LOL, that was well written too!

    I do single leg/balance work too. Started for the same reason as you and Glex...I had my knee scoped for meniscus. I really liked the results I got from it and I still do single leg squats fairly often.

    Have a good one Tim!
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    Thanks Banshee! You bring sexy to my log!

    Glex: I think the "weakness" in the ankle is how much ligament damage occured and how much extra laxity there is now. I find that occasionally I roll over on the ankle, because of the extra ligament length, like when you find a pot hole. Doesn't hurt, just makes me look dorky.

    This week is all about recovery. Welcome to my backoff week. This week will be filled with 20% less humour, 20% less information, and 20% less training. So what can you still expect to see in my log then?

    1) A Tim that is less stressed from the combination of PhD, finances running out quicker than beer at Oktoberfest, and that all passionate desire to lift heavy weights when he really should just give it a miss.

    2) A sudden realisation that calves and shoulder prehab work have almost disappeared from a routine due to sheer laziness and out-of-breathyness.

    3) The ability to take a 1.25hr program in the normal week and complete it with extra exercises in under an hour.

    4) For the nay-sayers and skeptics its likely to mean 20% less chance of me posting poundages and reps and sets.

    Its an interesting thing to take so much less time between exercises and exercise change overs. I performed the sets so much quicker last night, but also, because the working weight was 'easy' to move around, I moved quickly between C&J's, SLDL's, and Front Squats. Suprisingly the front squats still felt challenging, which I suspect is because the weight isn't really the issue as much as the mental aspects, and the keeping the bar on the shoulder thing. Actually as part of setting up I did my supposed 1RM on the front squat to rack the bar ready for the next exercise, and I think I really should have more weight on my next real session.

    Finishing up with inclines and chins was once again more an issue of lethargy than actual challenge to lift. Once this cycles into the third build up phase I'll have to swap exercise orders/days around. As I mentioned above I did external rotations, calf raises (which just fell off the schedule last week somehow), arms, and some different forearm wrist curls (used just a normal bar instead of my thick bar). Good to have these back, but I can see them disappearing again as the workouts become more fatiguing again.


     


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    20% less humour? The horror! Despite the less funny log week, I'm glad to see you're making up phrases like "out-of-breathyness" (assuming that's not an actual term down in Australia).

    Hope this week treats you well...I'd comment further but I'm spent as hell from the day.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by tim290280
    Glex: I think the "weakness" in the ankle is how much ligament damage occured and how much extra laxity there is now. I find that occasionally I roll over on the ankle, because of the extra ligament length, like when you find a pot hole. Doesn't hurt, just makes me look dorky.
    I agree completely. I just don't understand why people say that. I mean, we're both fine I'm such an idiot for not taking pictures of my ankle; it was awesome. I had bruises up my shin and down my foot from where the ligament snapped like a chalk-line on the inside of my body

    Take your time and de-stress, man. Nothing worse than overdoing it, and nothing better than taking it a little easier and affirming it was just what you needed.


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    I still lol'd even with 20% less humor enjoy your week bud


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    Quote Originally Posted by Line
    20% less humour? The horror! Despite the less funny log week, I'm glad to see you're making up phrases like "out-of-breathyness"
    Quote Originally Posted by FF
    I still lol'd even with 20% less humor enjoy your week bud
    Quote Originally Posted by Glex would have said
    This 20% less is still 40% more than other logs
    Thanks guys!! It's a round number, sometimes it will be more than 20% other times it barely seems like a change. Also I'm pretty sure I invented that "out-of-breathyness" due to my lethalogic-a.

    I went to get my haircut the other day. I've got that wavy/curly hair that starts to do whatever it wants when it gets to a certain length. I caught it one time trying to steel an old lady's bus pass! Anyway, I go to a mens hairdressers. This isn't one of those pseudo mens hairdressers, where the guys there look like boy toys for some guy named Stefan, or talk like their wrist is permantly damaged and cannot support the weight of their hand.

    I go to a Mens Hairdressers! All haircuts are haricuts, not stylings. They don't sell a line of shampoo or conditioner. Their selection of reading material does not include womens magazines, nor psuedo womens stuff like GQ. And lastly, the hairdressers are tough and manly, even the women.

    One of the owners is ex-army, and has been cutting hair for longer than I've been alive. The only female in the store used to cut footballers hair, back before they got stylists and lisps and the urge to wear womens underwear. The guy who cut my hair, is an ex-boxer and was fully into lifting weights.

    We got to talking about how in his prime he was 116kg (He's around 177cm), could bench 225kg, and how he now has a games room/weights room in the granny flat at his place. He also drives the biggest engined muscle car Australia has to offer (a Monaro). Talking to him I realised a couple of things. First he had had both shoulders reconstructed, in hairdressing this isn't suprising, except his was from benching. This makes me realise how you really have to be carefull with your joints to enjoy lifting in the long term. The second was he is still passionate about lifting. His sons are now using his old pics as inspiration. I want that! I want to get to mid 50's and still love lifting, still be able to lift, and to pass it onto my kids. Last thing I'd want is some skinny runt, wearing a tight bonds t-shirt, hanging out with his good friend all day, and going to hairdressers college.

    So this weeks back off is important. To make sure I'm not fucking up my knee and shoulder, I am going to make sure my form is good, that I still do all the little prehab things, and most of all make sure that every 4 weeks I do take it back a notch so that I can be loving this at 60.


     


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    The sheer act of quoting what 'Glex would have said' bumps what Glex actually says to, "This 20% less is still 80% more than other logs."

    And of course the rest is funny too. Kid hanging out with his good friend and going to hairdresser's college = Repped!

    Takes discipline to go in and say that it's an easy week. We know you're hitting it hard every other day


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    You crack me up dude

    Have a nice de-load!


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    Glex: I knew you wouldn't mind me twisting your words around. I really hate the metrosexaul hairdressing these days. You go into most places to get a haircut and come out looking like Beckham, without the billions of $$ and skinny wife as compenstation.
    Tunen: De-Load..... That makes it sound like either a new easy listening Metallica album, or getting shit stains off my shirt. Being a Metallica fan (except St Anger, didn't like St Anger, sounded like someone playing on dust bins all the way through) I think its the new album.

    My back off week has a new sponsor. Metallicas new album "De-Load" will be available throughout the week.
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    Thanks for the support. Hopefully I can inspire, with the help of Metallicas softer rock offering, others to make sure they do have back off weeks, or weeks were they don't train as part of their program.


     


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    Nice haircut story. I try to get mine cut by female stylists who shove their boobs in my face when cutting my hair but to each his own


    I agree with passing things on to your children though, my main problem is going to be not forcing things on them. Of course I'm going to grow up teaching them about fitness but I'm going to have to restrain myself from...oh, I don't know...beating them mercilessly if they want to take choir lessons instead of playing sports. Hopefully you'll be able to handle such a thing a little more gracefully than me


     




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