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    Need some Creatine advice.

    So, I've been reading up on Creatine and it seems really promising. I haven't heard of much side effects except cramping but those can also be resulted by not consuming enough water. However, I'm still unsure if I'm ready for creatine. I'm 17, but not fairly new to lifting. I was wondering if anyone here takes creatine, and if so, please give me some tips and tricks into using creatine, like when did you take it to find the best results and what did you take it with? Some creatine products now a days are made with a dextrose so some products won't have you worrying about taking it with grape juice or what ever. Here's a link on how to cycle creatine. http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/cr...eatine-use.htm Can someone please verify it? Also, if you'd like to add some helpful information about Creatine it self and how to take it properly, you are welcomed, I want to be fully understanding of creatine before I take it. Even if it takes a few months...thanks!

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    Creatine is 100% safe and fine, it's pretty well a supplement that there is no reason not to take it. I think Arcane got a sweet deal of creatine online, run it by him and see if he'd sell you some or something.




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    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/mag.html

    I think this is the best kind of creatine, creatine chelate. With creatine, monohydrate will cause bloat and water retention, ethyl ester wont cause as much bloat or water retention but the ester group could lead to stomach discomfort, and finally, the chelate has the benefits of the ethyl ester but without the discomfort of the ester group. As far as cycling goes, I am not sure there is a whole lot of merit to it. Creatine should always be taken with a simple sugar, post workout. Once you have loaded creatine in your system, I think anything over 5 grams is a waste. Hope this helps!

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    The torrent by Universal is also a great product. It is a blend of all three of the creatines and it is a pretty solid post workout attack in and of itself. It contains your simple sugars so there is no need to mix in your own to help drive that creatine into the cell. It also has somewhat ample protein.




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    for me the best creatine product has been EAS Phosphagen HP
    it's a creatine monohydrate with dextrose
    also I wouldn't worry about cycling as you really don't need to because there are no consistent benefits to it
    as far as timing when taking it I had best results when taking it both before and after my workouts just with water since the creatine already had dextrose in it
    by the way I am also 17 so I know what youa re thinking about when deciding whether or not you should take creatine
    it's safe for teens to use and will give you good results


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    This is what I've learned so far.

    Loading Phase:

    2-4 Servings a day, no more than 5 g per serving, with it, take about a half-liter of water and this should last between 5-7 days. Base it off of present bodyweight and intensity of exercising. (Between 12-16grams)

    Maintenance:

    2-3 servings a day, no more than 5 g per serving, half-liter of water with each one. And that's it, I don't know how much a day I should take it.

    I currently weigh 165 lbs. Can someone please help me in determining by amount for the maintenance phase.

    Also, when did you feel was the best time to take it and for what phase? And is it really needed to take a break after the maintenance phase?




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    Also a few more questions? I've been reading up, and literally almost every article is contradicting the other. One says to take creatine after a workout, the other says before. So I'm going to ask Mecca, when during the loading phase, when are you supposed to take it? I did the calculations already and I'm going to take 17 g a day, for maintenance I'll be taking in 8 g a day. Any tips for when I should take it, how I should take it, and what I should take it with? Also, how much water should I take while taking in the creatine at times and how much I should drink in a day both on and off days?! Tips?




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    Loading phase is mostly myth to sell more creatine.

    5g a day taken as Creator said with simple sugar.

    If you want to phase your use take it PWO only, loading cycles are worthless.

    I haven't read anything contradictory in the science only in supplement company propaganda.


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    Alright, thanks a bunch guys! I've gotten everything answered except the amount of water a day I should drink and how much I should drink when I take a shot of creatine?




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    I'm with tim on the loading phase. I remember a lot of companies in the past two years or so had sales drop so they then came out and said their creatine didn't need a "loading phase" just to try to get more sales. Yet it was still the exact same product lol. Just get some cheap creatine mono and drink it with some sort of juice or gatorade.


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    Aim for a gallon of water a day. That combined with the fluids you get through other things you consume should suffice. Take your creatine immediately following training sessions.




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    Recently it's found that creatine aggravates asthma, but other than that, it's perfectly safe.




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    Hey bro, seriously... just take 5g after your workout, and drink a bit more water throughout the day. It's as simple as that.




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    Thanks bud!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Recently it's found that creatine aggravates asthma, but other than that, it's perfectly safe.
    Source?




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    So I Went to GNC today, and this chick wanted me to buy the 40 dollar caps. I kept on asking her about other brands, but she kept on going back to the 189 Creatine, and I was like, "Lady, I'm taking about this kind, not that.." Anyways, there were two kinds I'm debating on, the creatine burst, or just regular. They both have monohydrate, except, the burst one has 38 carbs but they're not from sugars, almost like complex carbs, so what should I do, get the one with the carbs or the one without? My PWO meal looks like this now, whey protein with milk and a banana then about 45 minutes later a shit load of complex carbs. Any ideas? Both are relatively good in the price range. The burst one is 15.99 with over 1300 grams, the other is 22.99 with 1000 grams (the regular mono one..) So which one, the one without or with carbs?!




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    dont go to GNC they are a rip off unless its something that they are really trying to get rid of and its drastically on sale. Buy it off the internet you can get 1000 grams or so of creatine mono very cheap that way.

    You could also look at the vitamin shoppe, the prices are as cheap as the net but the store is def cheaper than gnc.




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    Alright, thanks!




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    yeah and I would try EAS PHosphagen HP which I know that they have at vitamine shoppe. real inexpensive and works well
    never go to gnc if u have any option...the prices are jacked up really high there
    also I would get powder if drinking powders doesnt bother you, with caps your body has to digest the cap as well which slows down how fast your body absorbs the creatine






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