plenty of supplements: help needed

Hypocrisy86 said:

Casein before bed is very good. if you can get casein get the cheapest you can get, it will help speed up recovery while sleeping.
can you get unflavored waxy maize starch over there? should be cheap too if so, can mix it with bulk BCAA powder + creatine mono hydrate.

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d.capodiferro said:

hi guys,
i've been training for about 3 years and started taking supplements about one year ago. i live in italy, where, about supplements, the situation is different from usa: for example today i just discovered that bsn's NOXPLODE is not legal in our country.
anyway i was thinking on taking some new supps:
until now i tried and keep on assuming low quality proteins(i just bougth them because they were cheap), bcaa, and creatine monoydrathe.
i was thinking of buying something to replace creatine or bcaa: nitrix for example. and what about products that contain creatine along with other aminoacids and carbs like cell mass or cell tech for example?
then, i take proteins before going to bed and when i wake up: is it worth to buy whey isolate and micellar casein proteins, that cost so much money and the sellers claim as the best source of proteins?
then about the brands: the seller whom i buy from, on ebay, has got bsn, ultimate nutrition and other european brand that i don't think you know.
what can you all tell me about this?
any help would be well accepted.

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DriDDeRz said:

Hi Mate, great step in asking for support and advice for the correct use of supplements while saving you money in your pocket


Truthly... if money is a big issue and your not willing to spend heaps... sometimes can lead to the right decisions
You wanna stick with your basic supplements

.Protein
.Creatine
.MultiVitamin
.Fish Oil
.BCAA

If its your first time useing a N.O(Nitrixs supplement) go for something cheap in price but a goof brand name, then work your way up there to other brands, as there is no point is spending the big dollars incase it doesn't work for you,
I, myself has had the problem with N.O supplements not meny work for me and ive found some that have,
Supplements like that are just Iceing on top of the cake, make sure your food Nutrition is spot on with your daily meals and your post and pre workout meals.

If the low quality protein powder your buying is doing the job and working dont switch, it is worth it to buy Whey Isolate and Casein
always research and browse around for cheaper/ better prices with proteins that has been shown to be great quality in it.

You said you take Whey protein when you wake up, if its costing you to much, remove the protein shake in the morning and have a food meal instead and save your whey shake for your post workout

Ive found Casein to be really great protein just before bed, while keeping me full throughout the night and when waking up i don't feel like i'm on an empty stomach which is a great bonus.

Another great idea if you have both proteins Isolate and Casein, half scoop of each into a shaker cup just before bed, that way your getting both sources and its not costing you to much


Regarding your questions about WMS/Waxy Maize Starch
Waxy Maize Starch is derived from natural corn starch and is a food grade modified starch. It is very bland in flavor and has a white fluffy like consistency. We recommend using a shaker or a blender (this is best) to mix this product as it does not mix well. Immediate use is recommended as it has a tendency to clump. We have gone through great lengths testing and tweaking our Waxy Maize Starch to be palatable. We have found one that tastes fairly well and functionality wise it is top of the line.

So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.

WMS can help the absorption rates of many of your favorite supplements like creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester, cell volumization and nitric oxide type supplements, etc. Nutrients like this often times are left in the stomachs harsh acidic environment and degrade absorption rates. WMS helps shuttle these nutrients to bypass the stomach and allow the body to assimilate these nutrients at a much higher rate.

WMS has the ability to replenish the body’s glycogen stores much faster than a mix of maltodextrin or dextrose. This is accomplished again by WMS’s ability to bypass the stomach and go to the intestines for immediate absorption. WMS’s ability to shuttle all these nutrients and starch gives the body an immediate "pump" you can physically feel in your muscles post workout. You will see a much larger, fuller and rounder muscle belly.

Dextrose and maltodextrin can cause water retention and bloating, hence WMS’s popularity with pre contest and contest preparation carbohydrate replenishment. Many dieters choose WMS as their carb of choice as it is sugar free and an ideal source of a long chain complex carbohydrate.

We recommend starting with one 70 cc scoop post workout and see how your body responds.

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