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Venezuela finds vast gas reserve

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8251981.stm

President Hugo Chavez has announced the discovery of a vast gas field off the coast of Venezuela.
The find - estimated at 7 to 8 trillion cubic feet, about five times what Spain uses in a year - was made with the Spanish energy company Repsol.
Mr Chavez announced the find while in Spain during a tour of Europe and Asia.
"What are we going to do with so much gas?" he jokingly asked Repsol's head Antonio Brufau in a joint interview with Spanish newspaper El Pais.
"I'm sure we'll find some use for it," came the reply.
Mr Chavez said the development of the field would put Venezuela - which already boasts the largest proven oil reserves outside the Middle East - among the world's top five gas producers.
Repsol confirmed the "enormous" discovery, which it made in an offshore site called Cardon 4 in the Gulf of Venezuela in an exploration consortium with the Italian energy company Eni.
It said further tests were under way to confirm provisional estimates of its volume.
If so, it will be the biggest gas find in Repsol's history.
Boost for Venezuela
Repsol said that once development of the field was under way, profits from the venture would be split three ways, with Repsol and Eni taking 32.5% each and Venezuela's state company PDVSA taking 35%.
For both Mr Chavez and Repsol the timing of the announcement could not have been better, reports the BBC's Will Grant in Caracas.
There have been suggestions that the oil industry in Venezuela is in decline, with falling prices, reduced production and high debts to contractors.
However, this gas find will go a long way to calm investor fears in Venezuela and Spain about the extent of the country's energy reserves, our correspondent says.
 
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Another cause for gringos want to invade us. :no:
 
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Chavez has permanently fucked his country be not paying bills and nationalizing oil companies. Thanks to his idiocy, Venezuela's oil production has plummeted. My guess is he'll fuck up handling the gas reserves, too.


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Another cause for gringos want to invade us.

The US has higher gas reserves than Venezuela.
 
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Chavez has permanently fucked his country be not paying bills and nationalizing oil companies..

Oil was nationalized in 1971. :rofl3:


Thanks to his idiocy, Venezuela's oil production has plummeted. .


Venezuela is an OPEP country, our production is controlled by OPEP, wars, crisis affect oil production. Seems like youre very well versed in all those topics. :bitelip:



The US has higher gas reserves than Venezuela.

do you really think that matters??



I still disagree with chavez' economy politics though.
 
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Sorry RobCardu, i don't think you've kept abreast of all recent developments.
Your are incorrect, some oil was nationalized in 1971, but most Venezuelan oil fields opened up to private investors back in the early 90s.


When I say "nationalize" I should have been more specific. Nationalize, in this case, refers to his military possession of oil development facilities that were NOT HIS. (illegal seizures of foreign assets.)

LINKS:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/chavez-nationalizes-last-of-venezuelas-oil-fields

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/world/americas/09venez.html?_r=1

This, of course, has led to many foreign investors weary of working in Venezuela and led to a plummet in oil production, despite his best efforts to raise it. Why? The expertise and investment needed to keep the oil industry going in Venezuela has largely been scared away by Chavez and his tendency to nationalize things that aren't his.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...elas-oil-output-slumps-under-Hugo-Chavez.html




The moral of this story? State run-industry bad; private industry goooood.



Read the news, buddy. Alot has happened since 1971.
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Venezuela is an OPEP country, our production is controlled by OPEP, wars, crisis affect oil production. Seems like youre very well versed in all those topics.

Forgot to address this!

Yes, I am much more well versed in this than you. Attached is an IEA report on OPEC (not OPEP, FYI)quotas and production country by country. As you can see on the second page, Venezuela has been unable to meet it's quota for many years, and, in recent months, totally ignored the quota and produced whatever it could. So, no, OPEC doesn't control Venezuela's oil production.
 

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Sorry RobCardu, i don't think you've kept abreast of all recent developments.
Your are incorrect, some oil was nationalized in 1971, but most Venezuelan oil fields opened up to private investors back in the early 90s.


When I say "nationalize" I should have been more specific. Nationalize, in this case, refers to his military possession of oil development facilities that were NOT HIS. (illegal seizures of foreign assets.)

LINKS:

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/chavez-nationalizes-last-of-venezuelas-oil-fields

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/09/world/americas/09venez.html?_r=1

This, of course, has led to many foreign investors weary of working in Venezuela and led to a plummet in oil production, despite his best efforts to raise it. Why? The expertise and investment needed to keep the oil industry going in Venezuela has largely been scared away by Chavez and his tendency to nationalize things that aren't his.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...elas-oil-output-slumps-under-Hugo-Chavez.html




The moral of this story? State run-industry bad; private industry goooood.



Read the news, buddy. Alot has happened since 1971.
:bullwhip:


Chaves uses this as part of his propaganda, he talks about a real nationalization but thats not true, before 1971 foreign company controled oil in this country, and now chavez said he got rid of foreign companies and blah blah, he uses this as a flag, you said "Chavez has permanently fucked his country be not paying bills and nationalizing oil companies" and thats not that simple, i wish it was, but its not, nationalization is not the main reason of what you call "fuck his country" IMO there are more bad things he has been doing than nationalization, we still have foreign companies working here, not american companies though, believe me im not talking about this bc i watched it on the news or read it on newspaper or wikipedia, ive lived in this country for 25 years, and you are just an outsider giving a wrong opinion based on .....what you read on the internet :bitelip:,so my point is ...1.-Chavez seized assets of foreign companies (Yes it happened)
2.-Is that the main reason of your so-called "fucked his country" (NO!!!!!)

i dont think its that hard to understand.:borat:
 
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Forgot to address this!

Yes, I am much more well versed in this than you. Attached is an IEA report on OPEC (not OPEP, FYI)quotas and production country by country. As you can see on the second page, Venezuela has been unable to meet it's quota for many years, and, in recent months, totally ignored the quota and produced whatever it could. So, no, OPEC doesn't control Venezuela's oil production.

OPEP= Organización de Países Exportadores de Petróleo

its spanish, this how we call it, our first language. :doh:


your link proves my point, Chavez seized asset of those companies in 2007 and we couldnt meet our quota that year , so those companies were doing nothing to make it, and im going to save your time to google the reason, in 2002 we had a coup and made our oil production goes down to 0% and that has taken some time to recovery, plus world crisis, and OPEP does control our oil production, the thing is not that easy to match the exact numbers, thats why you can see all those ups and downs in most countries, oil production is not as easy as it seems, also remember we're not a totally industrialized country, and oil prices have affected us really hard this last years, and you may say how the hell do i know this? because i live here and everytime i wake up and open my door i see venezuela, when i go out i walk in venezuelan streets and weve been breathing, eating, living "oil" since day we were all born, bc oil here is our everyday life man, oil controls everything here, so its pretty hard to try to prove me wrong posting new york time links, and a bunch of other foreign biased news papers, no matter you may say there will always be an answer...

Seems you like the topic, read this (its in spanish, so translate it)


http://www.soberania.org/Articulos/articulo_006.htm
 
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Forgive me on the OPEP and OPEC point.


We agree on point one.

Point Two: I'll debate this into the ground with you. There is, however, the distinct possibility that we'll never agree, and should drop it before we get into a lame fight. I will say that almost every oil industry professional I've spoken with concedes that Chavez has almost single handedly set back oil production in his country significantly. Are other factors at play here? Yes. Did they have greater influence than Chavez's meddling? In my mind, and many others, NO. I won't bother posting links to respected journals an articles that support my side (unless you absolutely want me to.)

your link proves my point, Chavez seized asset of those companies in 2007 and we couldnt meet our quota that year , so those companies were doing nothing to make it

No, you're misinterpreting data. It doesn't mean that oil companies "were doing nothing to make it" it means Chavez imposed harsher rules and regulations resulting in a reduced amount of profit for private investors, hence their scaling back operations and production going down.


FYI, I understand you live in Venezuela. But that doesn't equate to intricate knowledge of of the insides and outs of the petroleum industry.

Also, thanks for the link. I will read it tomorrow.


Should we stop here? Seriously, all we're gonna do it argue.
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Chavez is a "bocaza" and things are simple these days, some ppl believe what medias want them to believe, some ppl believe what Chavez wants them to believe and some ppl ( like me and most ppl in this country) believe what we see here in our everyday life.
 

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Chavez is a "bocaza" and things are simple these days, some ppl believe what medias want them to believe, some ppl believe what Chavez wants them to believe and some ppl ( like me and most ppl in this country) believe what we see here in our everyday life.

werd. I'm didn't mean to come off as rippin on Chavez. (I'm not well versed in his politics or anything else about him aside from the oil industry.) I apologize if I was being an asshole. I get hyper-sensitive when I post late at night.


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werd. I'm didn't mean to come off as rippin on Chavez. (I'm not well versed in his politics or anything else about him aside from the oil industry.) I apologize if I was being an asshole. I get hyper-sensitive when I post late at night.


:tiphat:

i couldnt care less about ripping on Chavez, i hate him lol i like some of the things he does, he seems to care about poor ppl and blah blah, but some of his economy strategies are stupid, and he always tries to make ppl believe in socialist bullshit when he's doing all the way around, and "the other way around" is the part i like about him, the pure capitalism, is "the capital" important for a country? i say FUCK YEAH!, and he knows it but his mouth is too big, and some ppl believe in that crap.

PS. that's not colombia PrincessFaggeta, youre the only one who lived there. :rofl3:
 
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