Victors Offseason Weight Seems to Be Pretty Much?

TSK · Oct 14, 2011

He goes to the scale at the beginning of the video... 340-344 pounds. That's heavy. Old vid I know, but nice to see if he's coming back hard and taking the Sandow next year? What you think? Should he get back with Oscar? I think it's maybe just matter of hes condition (and Kai's condition also) if Victor is going to get it. If Kai and Victor nails it, Phil Heath will have trouble keeping it.

FlexFan · Oct 14, 2011

He says at the beginning that he's 270...no way he's 344...

COACH · Oct 14, 2011

That was the cameraman or someone poked him playfully behind the scale!
I do this constantly with my clients!
A joke does not kill anyone!

Well that was in 2009
The new Victor is much more on the other line
Aesthetic complete line!

But believe me, Victor does not represent any danger to the boy, Phil

tkD · Oct 14, 2011

TSK · Oct 14, 2011

I didn't notice that it was a joke... feel little shamed that I thought that Victor could be 344 in that shape...

But yes, I really think that he can posses threat to present king Heath if he just learns to come shredded.

Flex · Oct 14, 2011

Only 2 people have the slightest chance of beating Phil in the next few years (Victor only has a few years left in him). Those 2 are Kai Greene and Jay Cutler, and possibly Evan Centopani if he makes some crazy improvements.

TSK · Oct 14, 2011

Hes not that old. 39 years next year and hes midsection hasn't started growing like Cutlers or King Colemans at older age.

But, you are right I also think Kai has the best chance to take the Sandow. Kais problem seems to be the same as Victors, condition. I don't remember if Phil Heath has ever come in bad shape to competition... He has better reliability about condition than Dexter.

pakiman · Oct 14, 2011

I think Evan in in a year or two will be in a position to beat Phil... I still havent given up on Cedric eaither!

mvsf1 · Oct 14, 2011

No way. Evan has no chest, Period.

fdelval · Oct 14, 2011

Well, chest is not Phil's strongest point...

But in every other aspect, Phil beats Evan. I see a no contest there.
The only men capable of defy Phil are: Cedric, Curry or Roelly.
But they somewhat cant nail it, but we must wait and see.

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oldez · Oct 15, 2011

Vic is too old. Nobody has ever peaked at 39.

The King Of Lurkers · Oct 15, 2011

oldez said:
Vic is too old. Nobody has ever peaked at 39.

What you mean by peaked.....peaked for a contest or life peak as far as muscle maturity because as far as i concern ronnie did it in the 2005 mr olympia pre judging....he peaked for a contest as far as conditioning, maturity and density goes

And he looked way more dense than that in video and sometimes make me think he peaked for lifetime at that mr o....even better than 2003!! as far as mucle maturity and density goes

Flex · Oct 15, 2011

Ronnie looked great in 2005, but that certainly wasn't his "peak." He was literally 20 pounds lighter than other Olympas there.

Love how you guys always use "freak show" Ronnie Coleman as your only example. Normal rules never applied to King Coleman, so find a better example.

oldez · Oct 15, 2011

Flex said:
Ronnie looked great in 2005, but that certainly wasn't his "peak." He was literally 20 pounds lighter than other Olympas there.

Love how you guys always use "freak show" Ronnie Coleman as your only example. Normal rules never applied to King Coleman, so find a better example.

X2

If Vic wants to beat Kai and Phil he should come in bigger and harder than ever. That is not going to happen. Victor peaked at 34 in 2007 when he came in second. Then came the leg injury. **** happens. It is around the age of 34-36 when most bodybuilders peak.

I think Vic looked his best in 2007. 4 years after no improvements. Phil on the other hand is improving.

The King Of Lurkers · Oct 15, 2011

Man look at that......that looks like peak to me

Edit> And wasnt Ronnie 39 at 03?

Flex · Oct 15, 2011

First off, that's one of the worst pictures I've ever seen.

Second, just because you liked his look that year doesn't make it his bodybuilding peak. His peak was most likely 2003, where he weighed close to 290 pounds, dry as hell. 2005, he only weighed about 273 pounds.

Once again, I really liked Ronnie's look in 2005. He brought in a smaller, conditioned, physique. But, there's no doubt Jay Cutler wasn't too far behind Ron that year. I think that's why Ron tried to come into Olympia 2006 weighing 300 pounds, even with missing an entire lat.

The King Of Lurkers · Oct 15, 2011

ROFL that is because is a screen shot of a video

oldez · Oct 15, 2011

I think we can all agree on that Vic isn't Ronnie Coleman. So it's quite unrealistic to expect Vic to make vast improvements at his age. Look at Toney Freeman. Look at Dexter Jackson. Sure they have stayed competitive at an older age, but have they made improvements? NO! The same goes with Jay. There has been a stedy decline for 2-3 years. He peaked at 34-36. There are guys like Phil who will be 32 in December and Wolf who'll be 33 at the end of this month and still have 3-4 years to make improvements. Kai isn't that young either. He'll be 37 at the next Olympia and I think we have seen the best of him when it comes to mass. He still has not nailed his conditioning though.

Natzo · Oct 16, 2011

Vic is as good as in 2007, I can see him battling with Phil but def. not beating him.

mvsf1 · Oct 16, 2011

^^ He can't battle Phil. He doesn't look better than him in any pose.

PS: Ronnie Coleman can smoke all Mr Olympias. He's the greatest, my wonderboy Jay said it a thousend times.

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