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    Plant based protien

    Protein doesn't have to come from animal sources to be effective. Here are 5 myths about plant-based protein you need to get past once and for all!

    In the world of bodybuilding, few things appear to be as misunderstood as vegetarian diets. In fact, some people will claim the two just don't go together. Most of the disagreement comes from the belief that plant-based foods don't provide enough protein to stimulate muscle growth, so they have no place in a bodybuilder's diet. Other skeptics claim using plant-based proteins will cause guys to grow man boobs or fail a drug test.

    Some of this may sound silly to you, but let's face it, plant-based proteins have been picked on by members of the bodybuilding community for quite some time now. Blame it on a general lack of knowledge when it comes to these proteins, or the popularity of several myths, but soy, rice, and hemp have been given the cold shoulder by many.

    Whey and casein may always reign supreme when it comes to protein powders, but learn the truth behind these four plant-based myths and see if it's worth your while to add them into your diet.

    Myth 1: Soy Protein Will Give You Man Boobs

    This is the myth that refuses to die among lifters. Soy protein has been sworn off by many lifters in the bodybuilding community for fear it may lead to an increase in breast tissue and a more feminine appearance. The thinking goes like this: Unlike whey or casein, soy protein contains phytoestrogens, plant compounds that have a similar structure and function to estrogen.

    Yes, it's true that gynecomastia, or swollen male breast tissue, is associated with an imbalance between the hormones estrogen and testosterone. But here's the catch: phytoestrogens don't actually have a direct impact on estrogen levels unless you consume them in really, really large quantities. And even then, it's questionable. In fact, a 2010 study published in Fertility and Sterility concluded that high levels of phytoestrogens did not cause gynecomastia or any other feminizing effects in healthy men.[1]

    For now, there is no research showing that soy has a feminizing effect, so rest easy knowing you won't be growing moobs anytime soon if you eat some tofu or have a soy-based protein shake. And if you're still looking for a reason to include soy in your diet, there are several studies that have shown a lower incidence of cancer—specifically breast, colon, and prostate—in those countries that have a higher soy-consumption rate.[2-4]

    Don't fear the soy! Phytoestrogens, the plant compounds found in soy, have no direct impact on estrogen levels.

    Myth 2: Pea Protein Powder Is A Complete Protein Source

    You've probably heard that plant-based proteins (with the exception of soy) are incomplete proteins, meaning they don't contain enough of the essential amino acids to maximally stimulate protein synthesis. So why is pea protein sometimes described as a complete protein source? It has something to do with the fact that the essential amino-acid profile of pea protein nearly matches that of common animal sources that are complete proteins—nearly, but not completely.

    While pea protein does in fact contain all nine essential amino acids, three of the amino acids— methionine, tryptophan, and valine—are very low in quantity. Because of this, pea is for all intents and purposes an incomplete protein and should normally be paired with a complementary protein, like rice, to form a complete protein.

    Here's the good news: Most pea proteins available on the market are already mixed with rice, giving you an allergy-friendly complete protein that tends to mix more easily in water than pea alone. Because let's face it, no one enjoys clumpy protein!

    Myth 3: Incomplete Proteins Have No Benefit At All

    This seems to go against what I just wrote, but hear me out. Although rice protein, like most other plant proteins, lacks specific essential amino acids, there is research supporting its use to stimulate muscle protein synthesis.

    A study published in Nutrition Journal in 2013 specifically studied rice protein isolate supplementation in comparison to whey; rice protein was associated with improvements in body composition, strength, and power improvements comparable to the whey isolate supplementation.[5] Surprising, right?

    So yes, you should have all the essential amino acids present and accounted for in ample doses most of the time. But it's also true that nearly all of us are getting plenty of them in our diet throughout the day. So don't fear the occasional incomplete protein!

    Although the research on rice protein supplementation is limited, it's often lower in cholesterol and sodium than animal protein sources like whey, and may be a suitable alternative for individuals watching their blood pressure.

    Rice protein, which is often lower in cholesterol and sodium, is a great alternative for individuals monitoring their blood pressure.

    Myth 4: Hemp Protein Will Make You Fail A Drug Test

    In the spirit of "there are no dumb questions except the ones that don't get asked," I won't ridicule anyone for wondering this. But rest assured, you won't fail a drug test after drinking hemp protein. And no, you can't get high from drinking it either.

    Although hemp and marijuana both come from the same plant, Cannabis sativa L., industrial hemp contains only 0.3-1.5 percent tetrahydrocannabinoids (THC), the intoxicating ingredients that make you high. That's not nearly enough to feel anything or get a reading. And not only are the THC levels in hemp foods barely measurable, hemp contains a relatively high percentage of another cannabinoid, cannabidiol (CBD), that actually blocks the marijuana high.[6,7]

    Hemp protein may not be a complete protein on its own, but it does offer up some unique benefits. For one, hemp protein has high digestibility, which means that the bioavailability is above average, consequently allowing your body to make quicker use of the amino acids. Hemp is also higher in fiber and omega-3s than pretty much any other protein, which could offer up additional health and weight-loss benefits.

    One other benefit you might not know: The oiliness of the hemp seed naturally deters insects and pests, which may help you reduce your exposure to toxic insecticides or pesticides.

    Myth 5: Plant-Based Protein Is High In Carbohydrates

    People who consume protein powder usually want to supplement their diet with protein, not additional carbohydrates or fats. This is especially true for anyone following a low-carbohydrate diet. Can't waste those precious carbs on a shake! This leads them to disregard plant-based proteins without ever looking at the label to check the accuracy of their assumptions.

    Pea protein, which is considered an incomplete protein, should be paired with a complementary protein, like rice, to form a complete protein.

    Plant sources like rice are often categorized as relatively high-carbohydrate foods, but when they get manufactured into protein supplements, the carbohydrates are largely eliminated, while the amino-acid profile is improved.

    Most of the popular whey protein powders on the market contain at least 3 grams of carbs to go along with their 20 or so grams of protein, so the playing field is pretty close to level. Given that many vegetable-based proteins also bring a broader array of crucial nutrients to your bottle than a whey shake does, the competition is a lot closer than you might think.

    The takeaway in four words: Don't fear veggie protein! It has a lot to offer you, and the downsides might not be nearly as big as you think.

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    Re: Plant based protien

    While I agree that Plant Based Proteins can be a good addition for some people.

    Personally, I don't care for the Flavored Proteins, of any type.

    So I stick with 100% Whey Isolate, that's Not Sweetened or Flavored.
    And the particular brand that I use is only 0.2 Grams of Carbs and Fat.
    It's Grass Fed Whey that's Hormone and Antibiotic Free to...……………………………. JP




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    Personally, I had never heard of plant-based proteins before I landed on this thread. The most surprising one is rice. I always thought it was a carbohydrate, at least that was what I learnt in school. It would be interesting to try out these plant-based proteins like whey because they are actually cheaper than the traditional proteins, like chicken, that I'm used to.




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    Re: Plant based protien

    I've read that the best plant based protein comes from Quinoa, it's a great substitute for rice and looks similar to couscous. It's full of Fiber, Manganese, Magnesium and Iron. It's NASA's first choice in what to plant and cultivate in interplanetary space travel. It is tasty and versatile that you can make breads, cookies, breakfast casseroles, muffins and pancakes with it. A cup of cooked quinoa has 8 grams of protein. It has the highest protein content in all plant based foods.




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    Re: Plant based protien

    Pardon me for asking but why take an alternative source of protein when meat is there in the market which is easy to purchase. Especially beef, it is a common food that is available almost everywhere here. But for the discussion of plant-based protein, nuts will be my choice because I am a nut eater. In fact, I always have some packs of cashew nuts and pili nuts ,the latter is the local version of macadamia. I really have no figures about proteins from nuts but I guess I am getting enough protein from the nuts that I eat everyday.




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    Re: Plant based protien

    I’ve tried plant based a few times but just can’t get past the chalky taste. I’ve had blends that are good and I’ve made my own blends too.




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    Re: Plant based protien

    Yeah not a ton of options for plant based anything unless u travel around different places over here




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    Re: Plant based protien

    I really feel that diversity is important because of the different qualities of each one of the proteins but you’re right. Getting protein from four or five different places then storing and mixing is more of a hassle than it’s really worth






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