Brace yourselves

[MrChewiebitums]

apologies if its a repost
either way for those who havent seen it.

brace yourselves

it is NOT a hoax

 

[Hypocrisy86]

I dont think the dog is still conscious.

 

[Pain]

Fake and ban for thinking its real.

 

[patdiddy]

That shit has got to be fake.....

 

[miamiracing]

wtf?

 

[Adam23]

ban for thinking its real :iorofl:

 

[MrChewiebitums]

it is not a hoax my dearies
google up Soviet physician Sergei Brukhonenko
along with this
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/top/experiments

quote
"One question you may be wondering: Why are these experiments listed here, on the Museum of Hoaxes? They're not hoaxes, are they? No, they're not. All of these experiments really did occur. I put the list here simply because I already had this site up and running, and I didn't feel like designing a new site just for one list."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_S._Bryukhonenko

you know sometimes you guys are a bit to sure you know it all.
just i should rethink what i say(sometimes even re-rethink) you should at least google it up! :gnd:

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neg unto thee!



(i didnt really neg anyone)

 

[DriDDeRz]

regardless of it being real or fake, its bloody cruel for an animal to be living in that form of state

 

[MrChewiebitums]

it was sedated
+ it helped develop something medical for us, something related to whats happening in the clip. which was important.

just saying, i dont have a side

 

[Pain]

it is not a hoax my dearies
google up Soviet physician Sergei Brukhonenko
along with this
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/top/experiments

quote
"One question you may be wondering: Why are these experiments listed here, on the Museum of Hoaxes? They're not hoaxes, are they? No, they're not. All of these experiments really did occur. I put the list here simply because I already had this site up and running, and I didn't feel like designing a new site just for one list."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_S._Bryukhonenko

you know sometimes you guys are a bit to sure you know it all.
just i should rethink what i say(sometimes even re-rethink) you should at least google it up! :gnd:

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neg unto thee!



(i didnt really neg anyone)

I did do some research.

how are wastes pumped out of the cells of the head and how are brain cells supplied glucose, a vital component of living brain tissue? Without glucose the brain cells would die quickly, within minutes. The whole purpose of O2 is to be an acceptor for electrons in the ETC, and since there is no source of acety Coa to enter the ETC (glucose–>(glycolysis)—> pyruvate—> (pyruvate dehydrogenase)—> acetyl coA), Oxygen will do no good, and the do cells will go into anaerobic respiration, producing lactate, and they will die because the liver is unable to convert this lactate back into pyruvate. Enough of that, the video is definitely fake.

 

[MrChewiebitums]

i`m not a scientist, nor am i trying to MAKE/FORCE you believe but go right a head see if you find anything suggesting the whole thing is fake.

i remember reading that even though that wasnt not the actually experiment the real one is very well documented.
that was just for cameras (something like that anyway)
experiment was sometimes a success, sometimes not.
this one complicated enough?
http://www.archive.org/details/Experime1940
looks like they used a real heart + real lung

here is something else the soviets did

by this guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Demikhov

i dont see why these things are so hard to believe

 

[MrChewiebitums]

i dont see why its so hard to believe, didnt find any sources saying its fake however the guy did explain PRETTY well what was happening.
along with pictures, historical and graphical data and plenty of them

i mean here you are blindly believing its fake, then you`ll go and bitch about people doing the very same thing but with politics, blindly believing in who ever they voted for.


i`m not getting money/points/prizes/promotion for convincing you

 

[Skeptic]

I believe it could have been possible to keep it alive for a short time... but keeping it alive for an extended period of time? I don't think so.

 

[Pain]

blindly? Explain how his head movies a good view inches at the end of the video without a neck? The dog was drugged and his head was poked through a table.

This video is fake.

 

[MrChewiebitums]

blindly? Explain how his head movies a good view inches at the end of the video without a neck? The dog was drugged and his head was poked through a table.

This video is fake.

1) it has a neck clearly you didnt watch properly.
it doesnt pivot or lift 90 deg or anything, it twitches and contracts its head and neck and so lifts up a bit+ i already said that the one we saw may have been just for cameras, because they had already done the REAL or supposedly real one
2) its clear that its not poking its head through a table
3) to just say "this and that happened, i am sure so its fake" is ignorant.

your last sentenced made me laugh. drugged and poked through a table..... jesus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
what about this?
using your vast knowledge on surgery of the human body is that fake?

then you`ll post but how this and how that and who made and etc......
doesnt really matter? its well documented in every documentable form, there isnt even 1 source saying its fake, one of the sources thats used to check if its fake says it isnt, clearly it happened in some form
because mr pain thinks otherwise, then only his version is correct

who takes a stand on a decision they took about something they know little about and is still obscure? sure you dont think it happened, but to say NO IT DIDNT HAPPEN > stupid.
because if anything data leans toward it did happen

i would say i think its real, not i know its real. because i cant be sure, and neither can you be sure that it IS fake.

and yes it is as skeptic said "Bryukhonenko's procedures are attested to in numerous books and medical papers, with some sources providing detailed technical information on the operations shown in the film.[citation needed] These texts also shed light on failures not mentioned in the film. For example, the severed heads survived only minutes in artificial circulation, while the resuscitated dogs often died after a few days[citation needed] while the film says the severed heads lived for hours and the resuscitated dogs lived for years."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiments_in_the_Revival_of_Organisms#Fact_or_fiction.3F

 

[Pain]

The experiments were real. The video is staged.

Did you not notice how they used two different dogs?

 

[Pain]

i would say i think its real, not i know its real. because i cant be sure, and neither can you be sure that it IS fake.

You're right about that.

 

[MrChewiebitums]

The experiments were real. The video is staged.

Did you not notice how they used two different dogs?

i had said "the video could have been staged" earlier in my posting
i thought you where refering to the whole experiment being fake... at least thats the idea i got for what i read

 

[MrChewiebitums]

i would say i think its real, not i know its real. because i cant be sure, and neither can you be sure that it IS fake.

hmmm
the key word is MAY
MAY have been staged

 

[MrChewiebitums]

i remember reading that even though that wasnt not the actually experiment the real one is very well documented.
that was just for cameras (something like that anyway)

there