Jay 2001 Vs 2008: I don't see the difference...

[mvsf1]

Whats the difference in weight?

I think at least 15 solid pounds.

 

[Daniel Andersson]

I think at least 15 solid pounds.

He was 255lbs at 2001 Mr.O so that can be accurate

 

[Daniel Andersson]

I added the Finals also..

 

[Beau]

I think he just missed his timing....i mean he looked great at the finals!

2001 still his best condition and overall package probably ever...

 

[ddragaon]

IMO
If he gets the waist and abs under control his legs are going to look bigger


And his haircut is ON in 2001:carduindisguise

 

[Tonka]

Shoulders shrunk.

 

[mvsf1]

He was 255lbs at 2001 Mr.O so that can be accurate

Team Cutler rulezz

 

[Zigurd]

My assessment:

In 2001 his shoulders and arms look bigger, his waist is tighter, his conditioning is up, he has better symmetry and his abs are "deeper"

In 2008 I would assume almost all the added weight is in the waist. His arms and shoulders look smaller/worse, his legs are far more assymetrical and his hair looks like shit xD

 

[Tonyk212000]

Well at least you gave some reasoning on your opinion this time...good on ya! Your learning

Im a big boy now

 

[Daniel Andersson]

My assessment:

In 2001 his shoulders and arms look bigger, his waist is tighter, his conditioning is up, he has better symmetry and his abs are "deeper"

In 2008 I would assume almost all the added weight is in the waist. His arms and shoulders look smaller/worse, his legs are far more assymetrical and his hair looks like shit xD

So you are saying he added about 15-20lbs around his waist?

 

[Line]

So you are saying he added about 15-20lbs around his waist?

Clearly he forgot about his back.

 

[Daniel Andersson]

Clearly he forgot about his back.

 

[DriDDeRz]

It's a shame he missed his peak and wasn't able to bring his whole package on the day.
i believe jay has it in him to turn it around in 2009 and bring back one of his best packages, regardles if it aint like 2001 etc, but the real question is will the judges still be interested in his type of size or have they taken a new path , only in time will tell but it will be a great road to watch in 2009 that unfolds and follow jays path into trying to regain what was his.

 

[crossfirebmf]

you are either blind or retarded (no offense) bc Jay has progressively gotten worse, but his name got bigger as did his waist...his legs got smaller as did his back and arms plus worse conditioning

 

[sexnews]

you are either blind or retarded (no offense) bc Jay has progressively gotten worse, but his name got bigger as did his waist...his legs got smaller as did his back and arms plus worse conditioning

Unfortunately they can't see the forest for the trees

 

[Duality]

he looks solid in 01'. personally i don't think even that physique beats the one we saw phil heath display a couple weeks ago.

he just looks lousy in both prejudging and the night show. dropping 10 (supposed) pounds of water doesn't change his bad structure, thick fascia/skin, absence of vascularity, massive waist, and glaring assymmetries. he just doesn't have what it takes to be Mr O with the current field of competitors.

 

[dilatedmuscle]

what is up with this 01 nonsence, he's deffinitely not as good, u guys posted really good jay shots, post a series of comparisons like in muscle kombat.......jay needs to forget about 2001 and come in like in 2006, has everyone forgotten about 06?! none of the experts are talking about it, all they talk about is the unacheiveable 01. its like telling ronnie to come in like in 03.... imo dexter deserved it but phil will be unstopable in the near future...

 

[Samoan-Z]

It's a shame he missed his peak and wasn't able to bring his whole package on the day.
i believe jay has it in him to turn it around in 2009 and bring back one of his best packages, regardles if it aint like 2001 etc, but the real question is will the judges still be interested in his type of size or have they taken a new path , only in time will tell but it will be a great road to watch in 2009 that unfolds and follow jays path into trying to regain what was his.

I agree but I personally believe this to be true he has the POTENIAL to win it all next year but jay doesn't have the fire, tat intensity of King Ronnie, or Yates or Branch Warren they enter the gym.. just by looking at their face they mean some damn business, Jay walks into a gym all happy like he just got laid.

I mean look at some of his videos he has women trainers spotting him, this is no dog out to women but you can't concentrate on the muscle and conditioning at hand with a chick around you can't it's a huge distraction. me myself I am a Cutler fan but you have to come to terms that he can win this if he brings that hardcore intensity and desire into the gym with him. I am a powerlifter so I don't know what to perfectly strive for physique wise but I go inot the gym with my training partners, there were no smiles, just business and intensity. If Jay wants it he bring that mindset with him.

 

[Samoan-Z]

It's a shame he missed his peak and wasn't able to bring his whole package on the day.
i believe jay has it in him to turn it around in 2009 and bring back one of his best packages, regardles if it aint like 2001 etc, but the real question is will the judges still be interested in his type of size or have they taken a new path , only in time will tell but it will be a great road to watch in 2009 that unfolds and follow jays path into trying to regain what was his.

I agree but I personally believe this to be true he has the POTENIAL to win it all next year but jay doesn't have the fire, tat intensity of King Ronnie, or Yates or Branch Warren they enter the gym.. just by looking at their face they mean some damn business, Jay walks into a gym all happy like he just got laid.

I mean look at some of his videos he has women trainers spotting him, this is no dog out to women but you can't concentrate on the muscle and conditioning at hand with a chick around you can't it's a huge distraction. me myself I am a Cutler fan but you have to come to terms that he can win this if he brings that hardcore intensity and desire into the gym with him. I am a powerlifter so I don't know what to perfectly strive for physique wise but I go inot the gym with my training partners, there were no smiles, just business and intensity. If Jay wants it he needs bring that mindset with him.

 

[sexnews]

I agree but I personally believe this to be true he has the POTENIAL to win it all next year but jay doesn't have the fire, tat intensity of King Ronnie, or Yates or Branch Warren they enter the gym.. just by looking at their face they mean some damn business, Jay walks into a gym all happy like he just got laid.
I mean look at some of his videos he has women trainers spotting him, this is no dog out to women but you can't concentrate on the muscle and conditioning at hand with a chick around you can't it's a huge distraction. me myself I am a Cutler fan but you have to come to terms that he can win this if he brings that hardcore intensity and desire into the gym with him. I am a powerlifter so I don't know what to perfectly strive for physique wise but I go inot the gym with my training partners, there were no smiles, just business and intensity. If Jay wants it he needs bring that mindset with him.

He probably did!