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    I wonder if the reviews, particularly the ones saying Bale got his ass handed to him from an acting standpoint in films like Rescue Dawn have got to him. There he had the chance of slowly moving into films that breach the border between entertainment and higher art but I think we're slowly discovering that he either isn't capable of, or doesn't want to be a defining actor of our times. In a way it reminds me of how directors like Christopher Nolan and Bryan Singer went the way of popcorn flicks after doing well with the more insightful pictures of their early careers. It's almost as if they're squandering their talents or hiding their shortcomings.


     



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    ^You can't make that sort of assumption off the back of a couple of films though (unless you are simply arguing future potential), considering the likes of De Niro and Pacino have made their share of duffers, and Coppola (The Cotton Club?!) too. EVeryone has a mi-step sooner or later.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    ^You can't make that sort of assumption off the back of a couple of films though (unless you are simply arguing future potential), considering the likes of De Niro and Pacino have made their share of duffers, and Coppola (The Cotton Club?!) too. EVeryone has a mi-step sooner or later.
    I haven't seen I'm Not There yet but as it stands now, Bale's best movie of the past ten years is American Psycho and that came out in 2000. The only real risks he's taken since have been Rescue Dawn and The New World but sprinkled throughout his filmography is a bunch of safe, money-assured picks. As for the directors: I'll restore some faith in Singer when he does a good movie; something we've been waiting on since The Usual Suspects from 1995. It seems he has a niche for story-telling but is too straight-forward visually and his films offer no difficult or interesting characters and little -to-no post-viewing meditation of themes. Meanwhile, Nolan seems to get worse with each successive picture starting at Memento > Insomnia > Batman Begins > The Prestige. While we enjoy what he's created out of the Batman mythology it seems he locked himself into entertaining flicks as opposed to trying to follow up with something closer to Memento or Insomnia. I'm not faulting him because that's where the money is, I'm just one who believes that if one possesses talents in the arts they should strive to do just that, make art.

    Anyway, No Country for Old Men was very good and probably lands in my top 5 Coen films of all time. Not sure of the exact score I'd give it as of now but it's in my top 3-4 of the year...possibly even #1 at the moment.


     


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    I see your points, however if you look at the market in which Nolan for example has gone into, whilst it may not be the finest of his own work the films he produced in that arena are far and away better than his counterparts if not necessarily his own best work.
    I was really disappointed with Superman Returns though I have to admit.

    I couldn't help but notice you didn;t mention Bale in the Machinst which I would have said was a pretty big risk that was a pretty damn good film too.


     


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    Picked up Waterworld on DVD last night.
    I still think its a great movie, even to this day.

    Superman Returns was fair, but in the sequel i hope they bring in a "decent" villian.
    You know, one who can actually fight.


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    Wolf Creek: 5.5/10 ("Based on a true story" is misleading for this film)
    Deja Vu: 7.5/10 (Had a fun time watching this flick, car chase scene dragged)
    Karate Kid Part II: 3/10 (A disgrace to the first film, beyond terrible)
    Welcome to Mooseport: 5/10 (Corny and not very funny)

    I'd recommend Deja Vu to anyone, and Wolf Creek ONLY if you love horror movies.


     


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    just watched the incredibles in HD on t.v.....not a bad movie, had some funny parts.....the computer animation is fucking awesome


    there i was...mother of god, there i am..holy fuck


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    Quote Originally Posted by thedon View Post
    just watched the incredibles in HD on t.v.....not a bad movie, had some funny parts.....the computer animation is fucking awesome
    Incredibles was about 6/10(it would be five if it wasnt for the hot mom :keke.
    Meet The Robinsons was friggin awesome!
    easily a 8/10 in my books.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I see your points, however if you look at the market in which Nolan for example has gone into, whilst it may not be the finest of his own work the films he produced in that arena are far and away better than his counterparts if not necessarily his own best work.
    Agreed but wouldn't you rather see a talented director make, you know, good films?

    All other above films mentioned sucked btw, with the exception of The Incredibles which I'd rate around an 7.5 out of 10. Scott continued to prove he's an overly-stylistic hack in Deja Vu and I'm still waiting to see a good-to-great film from either Scott that validates the amount of praise they get.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Line View Post
    Agreed but wouldn't you rather see a talented director make, you know, good films?

    All other above films mentioned sucked btw, with the exception of The Incredibles which I'd rate around an 7.5 out of 10. Scott continued to prove he's an overly-stylistic hack in Deja Vu and I'm still waiting to see a good-to-great film from either Scott that validates the amount of praise they get.
    It wasn't a great movie, but like I said, I think anyone would have a good time watching.


     


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    I thought Man on Fire was great.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by FuManChu View Post
    Incredibles was about 6/10(it would be five if it wasnt for the hot mom :keke.
    Meet The Robinsons was friggin awesome!
    easily a 8/10 in my books.
    i would definatly tap that animated ass!


    there i was...mother of god, there i am..holy fuck


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I thought Man on Fire was great.
    Denzel cannot play a bad part!


    Quote Originally Posted by thedon View Post
    i would definatly tap that animated ass!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I thought Man on Fire was great.
    I think it's fair. I feel that Scott has all the necessary visual gifts needed to make a great film but I haven't seen him harness them yet. He tends to go over the top on style and thus emotional provocation becomes a secondary element to his films.


     


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    So Cronenberg pretty much owns shit with Eastern Promises. It's probably the best 2007 film I've seen so far. Also, The King of Kong, a documentary on competitive arcade gaming was a nice little film but some musical and editing decisions left it feeling a bit crass and unpolished. There was also a good vs. evil theme that was played up a bit much given the circumstances and, if one video gamer in particular is going to represent "evil" then a little more depth would have been suiting. Still worth seeing though.

    To sum up my weekend in film...

    No Country for Old Men (Coen, 2007) ****
    The King of Kong (Gordon, 2007) ***
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    I see NCFOM lived up to expectation then.


     


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I see NCFOM lived up to expectation then.
    Quite. It took a little while to put together my final thoughts on it because it's a fairly layered story told in a very straightforward fashion. Of course, the performances and cinematography, as well as that ever-so-present dark Coen comedy was there but thematically it was pretty subtle. It's probably my fourth favorite work of theirs and would currently be my favorite of the year hadn't it been for watching Eastern Promises earlier today.


     


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    I'd heard mixed reviews about Eastern Promises and that it wasn't up to par with some of his best due to the disjointed performances and storylines. I think most of the revioews have either loved or hated (or rather been disappointed by) it.


     




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