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    I tried the Prep H and saran wrap thing overnight. Didn't do ****. I looked the exact same. All it did was turn my Pro Tan to some nasty yellow hue.

    Flex, you seem like a great person to ask, can you clarify whether lactose is a terrible sugar that should be avoided at all cost or if that is just a myth. If you ask me, it seems like lactose is a fine sugar to consume, provided you aren't intolerant, but so many BBers swear off milk every chance they get.
    i look at it exactly the way you do, it's fine as long as you aren't intolerant. The problem with milk, is the calories can add up rapidly fast (even skim milk). Most low-fat cottage cheese or other dairy products are also pretty high in sodium, I think that's where the "dairy thickens the skin" myth comes about. Sodium adds extracellular water, and what is that? It's water underneath your skin, thus it makes your skin "thicker." But that goes away in 2-3 days. Some nights I eat up to 2 cups of lowfat cottage cheese. That adds up to about 2 grams of sodium, which is a lot.





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    So flex... will we get a turk update soon? lol


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    So flex... will we get a turk update soon? lol
    THIS!!

    wasn't he competing last september??


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    Alright, that's what I figured the deal was with milk. Stupid "gurus" are stuck in the way of "it worked in the past for so and so, so it has to be right." And along those lines, the belief that fasted cardio is so awesome frustrates me. And people claiming weightlifting belts prevent hernias, when in fact belts can increase the chance of hernias.


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    ^ What do you mean fasted cardio? fasted as in starved or lack of food? If thats the case then a lot of people say that because you have less or (during low carb or keto) extremely low glycogen in your system so you use more fats as energy during your cardio.




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    Fasted (as in don't eat breakfast) morning steady state cardio is one of the dumbest bodybuilding myths. People say that because you haven't eaten anything during the night your glygocen storages are low and therefore you burn more fat. The thing is that you really don't use any glycogen during sleep. So your glygocen storages are as high as they were when you went to bed. Fasted morning cardio is in fact catabolic. The fact that you have low aminoacids in your blood means that you'll burn off your muscles. Always eat before morning cardio, but keep it low carb and keep your insuin low (so no whey protein). Eat meat, low carb veggies, eggs and so forth.

    Steady state cardio is the worst kind of cardio for a bodybuilder. Intervals (especially HIIT) have been proven to be far superior to stedy state cardio in numerous studies when it comes to fat burning and building muscle. That is why sprinters are ripped and muscular and marathon runners are what they are. HIIT is sickening, but do want to be a marathong runner or a bodybuilder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldez View Post
    Fasted (as in don't eat breakfast) morning steady state cardio is one of the dumbest bodybuilding myths. People say that because you haven't eaten anything during the night your glygocen storages are low and therefore you burn more fat. The thing is that you really don't use any glycogen during sleep. So your glygocen storages are as high as they were when you went to bed. Fasted morning cardio is in fact catabolic. The fact that you have low aminoacids in your blood means that you'll burn off your muscles. Always eat before morning cardio, but keep it low carb and keep your insuin low (so no whey protein). Eat meat, low carb veggies, eggs and so forth.

    Steady state cardio is the worst kind of cardio for a bodybuilder. Intervals (especially HIIT) have been proven to be far superior to stedy state cardio in numerous studies when it comes to fat burning and building muscle. That is why sprinters are ripped and muscular and marathon runners are what they are. HIIT is sickening, but do want to be a marathong runner or a bodybuilder?

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    First, sprinters implement weight training. They need muscle mass and strenght in order to be successful.

    Second, in the morning, liver glycogen levels have lowered, in muscles they have'nt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolicus View Post
    First, sprinters implement weight training. They need muscle mass and strenght in order to be successful.
    What I just did is called exaggeration to make a point.

    Second, in the morning, liver glycogen levels have lowered, in muscles they have'nt.
    Sure, but the difference is minimal especially when compared to low carb diet. The reasoning behing fasted morning cardio is false. It just does not make sense.




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    Its about the glycogen in your liver, not muscles. Though you may be right. During a keto diet or low carb, it would be great to go for a low intensity cardio session immediately after waking up so you dig into your fat sources at a faster rate, plus if you have too much glycogen in your system then you will burn some of it and deplete your stores sooner.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dilatedmuscle View Post
    Its about the glycogen in your liver, not muscles. Though you may be right. During a keto diet or low carb, it would be great to go for a low intensity cardio session immediately after waking up so you dig into your fat sources at a faster rate, plus if you have too much glycogen in your system then you will burn some of it and deplete your stores sooner.
    He's not bashing low-intensity cardio, he's bashing steady-state cardio such as running. Personally, I don't see how people do steady-state cardio for an hour straight anyway, it's boring. Time goes by so much faster doing 1-2 minutes of high intensity, then 1-2 minutes of low intensity intervals.




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    Yeah i see that but my response was due to his comments on fasted cardio. What do u think on the matter, Flex?




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    Quote Originally Posted by dilatedmuscle View Post
    Yeah i see that but my response was due to his comments on fasted cardio. What do u think on the matter, Flex?
    I believe cardio postworkout and in the morning each have their pros and cons. As for which is better is debatable.

    I would never do "fasted" cardio upon wakening, I think it's best to get a small protein meal (20-40 grams) and some BCAA's before cardio in the morning. Probably best to leave out the carbs until after your exercise is done, because the sugar in the blood and release of insulin could blunt some of the fat loss.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex View Post
    I believe cardio postworkout and in the morning each have their pros and cons. As for which is better is debatable.

    I would never do "fasted" cardio upon wakening, I think it's best to get a small protein meal (20-40 grams) and some BCAA's before cardio in the morning. Probably best to leave out the carbs until after your exercise is done, because the sugar in the blood and release of insulin could blunt some of the fat loss.
    what about the cons of cardio post workout?




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    The truth behind hany rimbjob ehm hany rambod program is as simple as it gets: fascia stretch and thus muscle belly expansion through the use of SEO, carbs/bcaa/creatine mid workout drink plus insulin, nothing much new at all. The usage of insulin was already advocated by Sarcev himself, which is well known for working with supersets and giant sets for maximum pump and enhance the blood flow to muscle granting a faster shuttle of nutrients to them. Rambod fsbull**** 7 is essentially a short rest giant set, yeah big improvement in the weight lifting


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natzo View Post
    what about the cons of cardio post workout?
    Just the increased chance of catabolism.






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