Bush embraces sanctions on Iran

[Bulkboy]

IS, quoting khomeini is not proving anything. he is a fanatic lunatic. obviously he have to say certain things(he does after all have to atleast try to give iran some credibility in the western world. you buying into everything he says and painting a picture of him as some saint is well, pretty darn ignorant to say the least.

and stop calling me ignorant for having a different view than yours, u think i buy into all the western media says, while u urself are obviously taking information from teheran as the holy truth. thats ridicolous, obviously there are inaccuracy coming from both sides, however i trust the western democratic media more than i trust the religious leader of Iran.

and come on, obviously he had to condemn the terrorist attacks on september 11th, i mean all countries did, that doesent mean teheran wasnt happy it happend. Iran has said that they view the US as the great satan and israel as the little satan.

saying that the US is the cause of instability in iraq is ridicolous, the invasion was wrong we agree, but who is responsible for making iraq unstable right now? its terrorist group, many passing through iran and leading their operations from iran without teheran doing anything about it. iran view this as an opportunity to attack america indirectly.

saying that the US government is the greatest supporter of terrorism is also kinda lame. you can not seriously mean that because the US supports israel that can be compared to iran supporting hezbollah. israel is, whether u like it or not, come to stay. founded in 1948, and still to this day the only real democracy in the middle east a valuable ally for the US. i agree that israels policy towards the palestinians is flawed and that they infact violate human rights. however, israel has its right to exist, and not be wiped off the map as iran wishes.

to me it seems u are so obsessed with critisizing american foreign policy, that u kinda loose ur grip. obviously america has made mistakes, both in the past and now, but jesus man, the alternative is much worse, withdrawing from iraq now will not solve anything, letting iran getting nuclear weapons will not solve anything, both these options are untolerable and will eventually lead to a more unstable middle east. and comparing america and israel to terrorist groups just isnt valuable in a healthy debate.

 

[pegasus]

and come on, obviously he had to condemn the terrorist attacks on september 11th, i mean all countries did, that doesent mean teheran wasnt happy it happend. Iran has said that they view the US as the great satan and israel as the little satan.

saying that the US is the cause of instability in iraq is ridicolous, the invasion was wrong we agree, but who is responsible for making iraq unstable right now? its terrorist group, many passing through iran and leading their operations from iran without teheran doing anything about it. iran view this as an opportunity to attack america indirectly.

he isn't scared of calling america a satanic state, but he is scared of not condemning the 9/11 attacks?

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/20/international/middleeast/20iraq.html
https://www.antiwar.com/orig/porter.php?articleid=9040

you can ramble on and on all you like but i don't know a single person who has bought into your bullshit, other than those who already had your mind set. neither bush or khamenei are credible people but i don't see why it should be a easy choice to take bush's word over his.

P.S. IS was quoting khamenei, not khomeini who's been dead for 2 decades now!! this just goes to prove the depth of your knowledge. you've heard a few names on the tv and you think that you can come here and act like someone who leans neither to the left or the right and doesnt' take sides. its surprising how similar you sound to a fox news reporter though. maybe you should send them your resume the next time they're hiring :wutyousay:

 

[Bulkboy]

well, to put it this way, maybe im a loner politically on this forum, but thank god, there arent many people like you out there, who presents the extreme views you do. as ron pauls campaign showed us perfectly well, when it came down to it it was all show no go.

and calling me out for being a guy who comes on here and leaning neither to the left nor right, what do u know about that? the only debates uve seen me have on here is about foreign policy where i take a middle stance, because that is the right thing in my mind. im for having troops in iraq, im for sanctions against iran, and at the same time im saying that going into iraq was not the right thing to do. so what? i dont understand why i cant disagree with the premise for the invasion, and at the same time say that withdrawing now is not the right thing to do.

ok i said khomeini instead of khamenei, big deal:wutyousay: you gotta take a chill pill and face the fact that not everyone share ur views about foreign policy. and u saying that noone on here agrees with me, cmon, we all know that most of the prominent people who regularly post on here are ron paul fans, and that they hang on his every word, that doesent mean that there are probably alot of people watching these threads agreeing with me. honestly i dont care, i know that u people will never get recognition for ur irresponsible foreign policy and that is good enough for me

and that is the last word from me in this thread, have a great evening

 

[Ironslave]

saying that the US government is the greatest supporter of terrorism is also kinda lame. you can not seriously mean that because the US supports israel that can be compared to iran supporting hezbollah.

What will it take to get you to watch this video??

israel is, whether u like it or not, come to stay. founded in 1948, and still to this day the only real democracy in the middle east a valuable ally for the US. i agree that israels policy towards the palestinians is flawed and that they infact violate human rights. however, israel has its right to exist, and not be wiped off the map as iran wishes.

I have no problem with any country existing. But the country should fuck off and not illegally invade and occupy other countries. Iran doesn't hate Israel for shits and giggles.... it hates Israel because of what is does!

Don't be such a neocon, America sponsors more terrorists (note the guerrilla groups it's literally PAYING in Iraq with cash and weapons to not attack them, you continually selectively ignore this). Watch the above video, and learn about the history of American atrocities. American foreign policy has done more evil than any other country or group ever could.

Pegasus also owns.

 

[Ironslave]

well, to put it this way, maybe im a loner politically on this forum, but thank god, there arent many people like you out there, who presents the extreme views you do. as ron pauls campaign showed us perfectly well, when it came down to it it was all show no go.

yes, that crazy constitution is so extreme!!

Not policing the world and committing covert wars/operations, killing hundreds of thousands of people, or borrowing billions of dollars a day (for a country already 9 trillion dollars in debt) is just insane!!

Stop being such a fucking moron.

 

[Ironslave]