Drealdeal transformation (M4BTEAM CONTEST)

[Thudgens96]

Yes I went back and stared researching it more and that sounds right on par with what I have been reading. I’m still on the fence about Tren haha not sure if it will be added to my stack one day or not. This is only my second cycle so I figure I’ll run at least another 3 cycles before I even contemplate running it. I do think if I did I would use the parabolan however I’ve read that real parabolan is hard to get and people pass off fakes all the time. That is just hear say though stuff I’ve seen on YouTube. Also I’m cutting down surprisingly pretty nicely with the test p at 350. I will be trying out npp for the first time soon I think I’ll wait a bit longer until I shred down more and then I’m going to drop down the test to 150 ew and start the npp at 450 ew. I’m basing that off your 3 to 1 ratio rule. Do those numbers sound ok? I know 350 on its own is low but I just wanted the trt effects for a few weeks before the real cycle begins. Also do you know what type of reaction T-bol will have with the npp? I’ve read that T-bol as very minimal side effects so bloating, ed and high shouldn’t be an issue right?,

I personally love tbol. And to be perfectly honest unless a guy is getting on the stage I can think of no reason for a guy to use tren at all. I have found with the 3 to 1 ratio. Everything you add works better.

 

[Thudgens96]

Yes I went back and stared researching it more and that sounds right on par with what I have been reading. I’m still on the fence about Tren haha not sure if it will be added to my stack one day or not. This is only my second cycle so I figure I’ll run at least another 3 cycles before I even contemplate running it. I do think if I did I would use the parabolan however I’ve read that real parabolan is hard to get and people pass off fakes all the time. That is just hear say though stuff I’ve seen on YouTube. Also I’m cutting down surprisingly pretty nicely with the test p at 350. I will be trying out npp for the first time soon I think I’ll wait a bit longer until I shred down more and then I’m going to drop down the test to 150 ew and start the npp at 450 ew. I’m basing that off your 3 to 1 ratio rule. Do those numbers sound ok? I know 350 on its own is low but I just wanted the trt effects for a few weeks before the real cycle begins. Also do you know what type of reaction T-bol will have with the npp? I’ve read that T-bol as very minimal side effects so bloating, ed and high shouldn’t be an issue right?,

I'm running almost the exact same cycle..
And as long as your diet and estrogen is in check bloating should not be an issue. Tbol [imo] causes wayyyyy less if any bloat compared to dbol. Hope that helps,I'm not as good as this or MM with articulating what I know ,I'm sure they will chime in as they are most certainly welcome too

No worries Dreal def appreciate the feedback. I just looked back and yes haha almost the same cycle! I noticed you wrote aromasin 12.5 as needed I have aromasin on hand but have never taken an AI. How do you know when you need to take it? Or do you constantly take bloods to see where your at and if an ai is needed?

I quit taking Ai's awhile back. Use the anti e effects of mast and proviron. And I feel so much better. I do have on hand in case things go south. But I really do feel better without them.

 

[CRobin]

Right on I’ve actually been looking into that and have some mast p on the way as we speak. Also that is why I ordered the proviron because last cycle I had bp issues and the proviron definitely is helping I haven’t had any bp spikes and I’m ok drinking my morning coffee which I couldn’t do last time either.

 

[CRobin]

I have heard that AI’s can make you feel like shit and if you overdue it can crash your estro which robs your gains right?

 

[Thudgens96]

I have heard that AI’s can make you feel like shit and if you overdue it can crash your estro which robs your gains right?

Yes sir estrogen is needed to build mass.

 

[Mountain-Man]

I have heard that AI’s can make you feel like shit and if you overdue it can crash your estro which robs your gains right?

Yes sir estrogen is needed to build mass.

Agreed that's why I'm blessed I don't need AI at 3 grams of test or 200 mg dbol

 

[CRobin]

Yes I went back and stared researching it more and that sounds right on par with what I have been reading. I’m still on the fence about Tren haha not sure if it will be added to my stack one day or not. This is only my second cycle so I figure I’ll run at least another 3 cycles before I even contemplate running it. I do think if I did I would use the parabolan however I’ve read that real parabolan is hard to get and people pass off fakes all the time. That is just hear say though stuff I’ve seen on YouTube. Also I’m cutting down surprisingly pretty nicely with the test p at 350. I will be trying out npp for the first time soon I think I’ll wait a bit longer until I shred down more and then I’m going to drop down the test to 150 ew and start the npp at 450 ew. I’m basing that off your 3 to 1 ratio rule. Do those numbers sound ok? I know 350 on its own is low but I just wanted the trt effects for a few weeks before the real cycle begins. Also do you know what type of reaction T-bol will have with the npp? I’ve read that T-bol as very minimal side effects so bloating, ed and high shouldn’t be an issue right?,

I personally love tbol. And to be perfectly honest unless a guy is getting on the stage I can think of no reason for a guy to use tren at all. I have found with the 3 to 1 ratio. Everything you add works better.

Awesome good to know! If I ever decide to push for the stage I will keep in mind that may be a tool to consider. Also I’ve read that T-bol is very underrated and can help pack on some nice clean gainz.

 

[Thudgens96]

Yes I went back and stared researching it more and that sounds right on par with what I have been reading. I’m still on the fence about Tren haha not sure if it will be added to my stack one day or not. This is only my second cycle so I figure I’ll run at least another 3 cycles before I even contemplate running it. I do think if I did I would use the parabolan however I’ve read that real parabolan is hard to get and people pass off fakes all the time. That is just hear say though stuff I’ve seen on YouTube. Also I’m cutting down surprisingly pretty nicely with the test p at 350. I will be trying out npp for the first time soon I think I’ll wait a bit longer until I shred down more and then I’m going to drop down the test to 150 ew and start the npp at 450 ew. I’m basing that off your 3 to 1 ratio rule. Do those numbers sound ok? I know 350 on its own is low but I just wanted the trt effects for a few weeks before the real cycle begins. Also do you know what type of reaction T-bol will have with the npp? I’ve read that T-bol as very minimal side effects so bloating, ed and high shouldn’t be an issue right?,

I personally love tbol. And to be perfectly honest unless a guy is getting on the stage I can think of no reason for a guy to use tren at all. I have found with the 3 to 1 ratio. Everything you add works better.

Awesome good to know! If I ever decide to push for the stage I will keep in mind that may be a tool to consider. Also I’ve read that T-bol is very underrated and can help pack on some nice clean gainz.

Absolutely I think tbol is severely underrated.

 

[Drealdeal]

Just a quick shot of my back

 

[M4BTEAM]

Just a quick shot of my back

Dre, good pic, You def have a huge potential Bro!

M4B

www.M4B.is
m4bteam@katzmail.net

 

[Drealdeal]

Just a quick shot of my back

Dre, good pic, You def have a huge potential Bro!

M4B

www.M4B.is
m4bteam@katzmail.net

Thanks

 

[CRobin]

Cobra!

 

[Thudgens96]

Just a quick shot of my back

Damn your thick brother.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Hey fellas I'll throw my 2 cents here if you don't care. 19 nors are freakin awesome just keep the test low. For me 3 parts 19 to 1 part test works great and I just say 19 cause I feel that tren deca npp should all be ran this way. Since I started doing it this way no sides. I repeat no sides. I used to be of the mind set double your test to 19. I would have all kinds of issues dick pointing at the floor emotional oh it was terrible. And the older I got the worse the side were and the faster they came. Pre 40 never had any issues. Don't know what changed but it sucked. Now all smiles at 3 to 1. And I had whatever I want to this with no ill side effects.

I agree 100% but with tren ace I lose and look smaller without test up so I go back and forth. Lol
But u and me discussed this alot and both had bad issues with tren before!! Very scary and wouldn't check my bp no way not feeling like that!!!

My bp doesn't go up near as bad with the test low. Not sure I will ever take ace again after all the research I've done on Parabolan.

To me brother parabolone is just an ester between tren e and tren a.
They discontinued it because of same issues it was used in France as medicine.
The 76.6 mg from back in day, if they had less sides it's cause they were using 76mg at 2x a week.
Just saying.
But I only use tren to sharpen my look I burn tons on fat from it!!

I'm pretty sure the Parabolan stayed in your system even longer than enanthate. And that's what makes it better for you cause your body breaks it down more slowly so that it doesn't have to process to much of the hormone at once. This is the only way trenbolone was ever meant to be in the human body. The acetate version is simply that harsh on the body due to its rapid pass through the body.

Corect my bad but problems with Enathate or build up which longer half like in para would make it worse imo!!
Ace is smooth enathate once it hits u and it's too much oh shit

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I have heard that AI’s can make you feel like shit and if you overdue it can crash your estro which robs your gains right?

I take Nolva 10mg a day u use proviron and mast and need no AI I may use .5 adex 3x week just for kicks.

And yes bloating controlled by diet and estrogen.

Over doing it with AI worse on lipids and liver than all gear we use.

I stop bloat with dht roids in stack and nolva protects me at 10mg everyday and helps my bloat without lowering estro.
Nolva binds to estro fed tissues besides breast.
Dht roids too.
They cost and don't build u up but they lower estro thru natural mechanisms

 

[Drealdeal]

It's shoulders day
Delts ,traps and I will also do a bit of lower back work as well.

Anabolic menu

Hgh 5iu

NPP 100mg

Test no ester 100 mg

Tbol. 40mg

2 movements each head and 2 for trapezius

2 for spinal sectors.


Did 20 m8ns fasted cardio elliptical machine before 1st meal.

 

[Drealdeal]

I live the lighting in this gas station restroom lol so I took advantage

 

[Big Beef]

Your doing a good job of leaning out. Have you lost weight? Gained?

 

[Drealdeal]

Your doing a good job of leaning out. Have you lost weight? Gained?

I lost but maybe 4 or 5 pounds . And some body fat

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I live the lighting in this gas station restroom lol so I took advantage

Awsome!!!
The weirdest places have best light.
I lock door and take shirt off to get shots where good lite.

Big guns!!!