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ECA without the EPHEDRINE? does it work?

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ECA without the EPHEDRINE? does it work? im finding it very hard to get eph so im wondering just using a coffee stim and aspirin. would it work?

all i can get my hands on are pseudoeph
 
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Yeah, it will work, though not as well. But anyways, I'd argue that it's probably better without it as ephedrine isn't worth the potential cardiac damage (though, it'd probably have to be long term use). You'd get the same results (and do it much healthier) leaving out the ephedrine, and doing an extra 20 mins of cardio, or eating 1-200 less calories a day or whatever.

I'd avoid clen.
 
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just get some cheap caffiene pills and use those if you cant get your hands on eca. Bone Yard where are you from? In the US eca should be easy to get
 
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True you can get the ECA stack in the USA but it's only extract I believe and at a low dose.
 
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you sure??? I'll have to check my tri-stack label and I know mine is 25mg
 
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im from australia mate - its very hard to get stuff here. i just want to hear thoughts from people who have used it the stack without EPH - im not really that keen on use eph.
 
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and what does aspirin do?
 
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and what does aspirin do?

Aspirin is a non selective inhibitor of the enzyme cycloxygenase (COX), inhibiting both COX1 and COX2 variants. What this ultimately does, is block the formation of molecules called "prostaglandins." This is supposed to enhance the action of norepinephrine (NE), but the effects are modest at best.
 
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yeah man. damn those enzymes!
 
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yeah man. damn those enzymes!

You could add some green/white tea :wutyousay:

The EGCG is an inhibitor of the enzyme called catechol-o-methyltransferase, (COMT). COMT breaks down catecholamines (epinephrine, norepinephrine, domanine) in the synaptic cleft.

Thus, green tea increases the half life of E, NE, D, which promotes fat burning.
 
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cheers for the info mate ^.

so it would help if i take aspirin plus a thermogenic (caffeine) during my cardio?
 
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cheers for the info mate ^.

so it would help if i take aspirin plus a thermogenic (caffeine) during my cardio?

The aspirin really doesn't do much, to be honest. Personally, I think you can get great results just drinking green/white tea around 30 minutes before cardio, and having a strict diet.

There are products though which do contain ephedrine, this comes to mind.
http://www.mysupplementstore.com/redstexwbynr.html
 
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I would just go with a clen,t3 stack, it would work just as well.
 
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I would just go with a clen,t3 stack, it would work just as well.


This kid doesnt even know what the asprine does in an eca stack (no offence mate everyone has to learn, in simple terms it a blood thinner so things can move around easier) and your recomending clen and t3! why not DNP and some growth!

cardio, caffine (green tea) and a reduction in your cals should have you on your way
 
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This kid doesnt even know what the asprine does in an eca stack (no offence mate everyone has to learn, in simple terms it a blood thinner so things can move around easier) and your recomending clen and t3! why not DNP and some growth!

cardio, caffine (green tea) and a reduction in your cals should have you on your way

Awesome post.
 

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