How did you exactly use it?
I love your disclaimer.
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I agree. It's a science and one has to educate before jumping in. I'm really glad people can educate here by learning from great guys like you man.
I think anyone who uses insulin that isn't doing so for legit medicinal purposes (diabetes) is out of their minds. You are going to become a diabetic using it when it's not necessary and put yourself into a diabetic coma if you don't know what you're doing - which is the case with the majority of bodybuilders and this drug. I have two diabetics in my house and it is a very serious condition if not taken care of properly. And the dosages change all of the time depending on your numbers. It has to be closely monitored by a specialist and I doubt some meathead is doing that. Just take test and eat clean.
I'm assuming you're not running insulin alone that you're taking HGH? I have used insulin many times I've used HGH with it and T3 with it which is a good combination for scientific reasons I don't want to get into. if you're using just insulin I've never done that and I really don't know what the effects of just insulin without growth hormone would be. if you're I don't know what show you're going into you must be a big guy if you're a super heavyweight and I understand I competed for 12 years straight and I understand trying to keep up with everybody else and you have to do what everybody else does but I don't think insulin is the best thing to be taking right up to a contest. most of the time I would cut it out about 8 weeks out insulin holds body fat no matter what no matter if you're on GH or and if you're on T3 it's still going to hold body fat and it's going to hold water. if you know your body that well you would have to really really know yourself because the carb up with insulin would be difficult unless you totally know what you're doing. I mean my snap judgment will be to tell you not to use it past 8 weeks before but I'm sure people have and do
I'm sorry bro I didn't get to read your whole post but I got to read up to the part where you say if you use insulin you're insane. a lot of people have misconceptions about the use of insulin I've used it several times and I've never had a damn problem at all and I have a ton of friends that have used it with th and had no problems. the time you're going to have a problem with insulin is if you don't eat I've always used insulin humulin R which is regular insulin which releases at a regular rate so all you have to do is take in a little less than 10 G of carbs per unit of insulin and there is no possible way you're going to go into insulin shock and die or anything bad is going to happen. actually that it was always 10 G to one IU and that's way too high I found. if you know what you're doing insulin is safe just like T3 just like all these other drugs that get a bad name but if you don't know what you're doing yes you could kill yourself with insulin if you take a shot of insulin and don't eat any carbs yeah you're going to go into diabetic shock and you could die but then you're an idiot because you're taking insulin and don't know what the hell you're doing why someone would do that I have no idea it's not like insulin to drug that people pick up in the first month of them training at the gym that's something usually that comes up after they've been competing for like five six years and they want to go to another level. but I'm telling you insulin is a very safe drug if used correctly.
You can run whatever compounds you want; some people think I'm nuts for using TRT dosages. But insulin can kill you if used improperly. Thankfully so far your experiences with it have been positive, But you can go into diabetic shock or a coma playing around with it. And you will fuck up your hormones enough where you'll become diabetic. You mentioned T3 - I also think that thyroid meds are insane for bodybuilding purposes. When guys just used gear and maybe HGH, they lived a hell of a loot longer than what we are seeing the last 15 years.
dude I'm sorry I'm off for a debate with somebody but you make absolutely no sense. you just said all over again what you said the first time that it's insane to use insulin because you could go into insulin shock I agreed with all that and that is all true if you don't eat. tell me what idiot would shoot 10 units of insulin after they train and then not eat for 4 hours? because that's what would happen is they would go into insulin shock and possibly die now if you take in even 70 or 80 g of carbs that's not going to happen it doesn't matter what type of cabs. my point wasn't that insulin can't kill you and it can't be dangerous a lot of things can be dangerous when misused my point was there is a very safe way to use it and it's a very safe drug if he was correctly and it cannot make you diabetic that's another myth that you came up with from somewhere you probably read it somewhere but it's not true. so all your hypothesis or guesses or whatever you're doing cuz they're not fact and you're twisting the truth bringing up the same thing you brought up in the first post without even acknowledging my point that as long as you eat it's not a dangerous drug because you cannot go into insulin shock or diabetic shock or die. so respond to that respond to the fact that there is no possible way if you eat carbs after you take insulin that you're going to go into diabetic shock anytime and there's any chance of it cuz there's no chance of it so why don't you respond to that what do you think after learning that not your preconceived notions of insulin.
Go enjoy your debate; I'm sure you act like a dick there the way you are on these boards. I could give a rat's fuckin' ass if you take everything under the sun & drop dead from it. Not my business nor problem. But you're trying to justify taking shit that isn't meant for bodybuilding. And I didn't say T3 will kill you; that was for insulin. But you were probably balls deep in preparation for your debate and didn't read my few lines correctly.
you really don't comprehend the written word do you? bodybuilders are dying for whatever reason but none of it relates to insulin use or T3. I told you the only way you're going to die from insulin is if you take a shot of insulin and purposely that means on purpose intentionally don't eat any carbs for 4 or 5 hours going to insulin shock and die so pretty much commit suicide. how you got the idea that T3 kills anybody I have no idea because it doesn't I don't know how you die from supplementing with T3 I just don't know how.
Both insulin & thyroid medications can masque a condition that you may have or develop and it will go undetected. But getting back to our original discussion, anyone who takes these drugs for bodybuilding purposes is not thinking right because what is the long term plan? Even the most popular pros make shit in terms of money. Are you on the Olympia stage? And that's not a rhetorical question; I have no idea who you really are. But I'll bet that you're an NPC lifer and even if you look great, you're not going anywhere unless you blow the powers that be.
The dude is a troll or a hater just save your breath fire a legit athlete not some shit talker. Don’t even believe he has diabetics in his house and if he dose and they’re not type 1 then how lol
