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I was taking havoc at the same time. I am also different than most that just start on here too when it comes to supps because of my weight. My weight went from 230ish to about 240ish over the course and I also lost BF at the same time. BF didn't drop anything crazy, I would say maybe 2% which I don't mind at all, but thats because of my clean eating and probably more because of Havoc.
I took it and loved it...gonna do another cycle again soon. Thing is it seemed to aid in fat loss, added strength, added lean weight. And yes does make you very very sore. I had a log/review on it....i'll see if i can find it
ahh bit dissapointed in the price costs like £50 per bottle n £16 vat, only thing im worried about if geeting so sore n not overtraining especially with triceps because i train chest, shoulders n tris all on diff days
It's results can be quite varied. It is an effective product, and although AA is linked to certain health issues, if you are healthy it is safe. The soreness can be intense, as well as joint inflammation (it is recommended that you don't take anti inflammitories while on it to maximize it's benefits, although recent studies contrast this).
I would say that 10-15lbs would be on the high end, but gains of 5 lbs and improved body composition and strength are very realistic, if your training and diet are in check. And although some people experience no gains, I would say gaining MORE than 5lbs of muscle is at least as likely.
well i started today gave me abit of diorhea but seems to of calmed down now, yeh my training is spot on, and my diet ranges from 4000 to 4750 cals a day. im bout 6'1 190 very ectomorphic so hopefully this will break a plateau ill post stats at end of cycle
For those of you looking at the Bulk version, remember it is 10% extract, so if I'm not mistaken (I may be though), it's not a crazy good deal. I hear it tastes pretty bad. I would just go with the caps personally.