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  • Follow the 2026 Olympia on September 24 to 27, 2026!

More BAD Judging! (Chuck Lyons vs. Miguel Neil)

Who wins?

  • Chuck Lyons

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • Miguel Neil

    Votes: 15 50.0%

  • Total voters
    30
Flex

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Chuck Lyons vs. Miguel Neil

The man on the left is Chuck Lyons, who won his class (light heavyweights).

The man on the right is Miguel Neil, who did not even place in the top 5 in the lightheavys! Ya Rly.


Chuck Lyons (1st place - Light Heavyweights)......................Miguel Neil (Did not place top 5 - Light Heavyweights)




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bad Judging for sure :no:

Miguel Neil out of the top 5, this is bull shit.
 
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Oh wow, whats with the judging now a days....horrible stuff
 
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Lyons legs have a nice sweep and look good in the BDB but lacks the conditioning Neil had. I dont see how the judges could have missed the striations in his Glutes, Pecs and Lats!
 
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Lyons legs have a nice sweep and look good in the BDB but lacks the conditioning Neil had. I dont see how the judges could have missed the striations in his Glutes, Pecs and Lats!
I didn't make this thread to rip on Chuck Lyons. Chuck probably had the best shape in his class, but personally I don't think his conditioning was good enough to win.

As for Miguel, when was the last time you saw a guy with the most striated chest/glutes in the entire show not place in the top 5 of his class?

Sometimes I think Gary Udit and his crew take naps in the middle of the show.
 
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I didn't make this thread to rip on Chuck Lyons. Chuck probably had the best shape in his class, but personally I don't think his conditioning was good enough to win.

As for Miguel, when was the last time you saw a guy with the most striated chest/glutes in the entire show not place in the top 5 of his class?

Sometimes I think Gary Udit and his crew take naps in the middle of the show.

I agree Joey...his crew stinks
 
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Got any picks of the guys that placed ahead of him?
 
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Seriously - with all of these consistently bad judging, the bodybuilding-community should really consider a total reformation of the judging; some way to make i more objective and sharper control with the judging itself - cause a lot of bodybuilders get screwed in shows because of the complete subjectivity.

I mean - come on, just look at this guy compared to the winner. His mass is pretty close to chucks and his conditioning is far superior - how the hell can he place out of top 5?
 
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Wow, this is really bad judging. That guy's conditioning is alot better than the winners and yet he doesn't get top 2, let alone top 5. What a joke.
 
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I appreciate the thread and the pictures for the comparison! That's the way it goes! I and a lot of others thought I won the class but ended up 6th. I will be doing the Nationals and I got some more mass and will top the conditioning at the North Am! I really appreciate the support and comments!
 

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Oh snap! Big Neil in the house. Glad to have you on the board, i hope you keep us updated. It will be good to see you onstage!
 
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bad judging!, Big neils surely one that!
 
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are you f**ken serious?
14 votes to chuck? and 7 to Miguel?


clearly whoever voted for chuck to win needs to get their eyes checked :talktothehand:
 
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I appreciate the thread and the pictures for the comparison! That's the way it goes! I and a lot of others thought I won the class but ended up 6th. I will be doing the Nationals and I got some more mass and will top the conditioning at the North Am! I really appreciate the support and comments!

Not your fault that the judges didn't pay conditioning its due. Bring that same conditioning with another year of mass and it would be a whole different story!!
 
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Damn, necro'd big time, haha. I'd give you a hard time for it, but when I google my name, nothing cool comes up. :bitelip:
 

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