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fedorov is not on the left. hes on the right. anyone know if he had to stop for health reasons? sucks to see that, he was so damn young still
So what your saying right now is that if i did not eat or train that i would build muscle with just taking steroids, steroids DO NOT BUILD MUSCLE WITHOUT FOOD. Steroids are not anabolic that statement is wrong, they are anti catabolic. Steroids w no food means no muscle. Steroids do not build muscle without food. So to say steroids build muscle is incorrect. DO they speed up the process when added to training and diet reguardless of quality of either, definately.
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men.
Bhasin S, Woodhouse L, Casaburi R, Singh AB, Bhasin D, Berman N, Chen X, Yarasheski KE, Magliano L, Dzekov C, Dzekov J, Bross R, Phillips J, Sinha-Hikim I, Shen R, Storer TW
Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec ; 281(6): E1172-81
Testosterone increases muscle mass and strength and regulates other physiological processes, but we do not know whether testosterone effects are dose dependent and whether dose requirements for maintaining various androgen-dependent processes are similar. To determine the effects of graded doses of testosterone on body composition, muscle size, strength, power, sexual and cognitive functions, prostate-specific antigen (PSA), plasma lipids, hemoglobin, and insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) levels, 61 eugonadal men, 18-35 yr, were randomized to one of five groups to receive monthly injections of a long-acting gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) agonist, to suppress endogenous testosterone secretion, and weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone enanthate for 20 wk. Energy and protein intakes were standardized. The administration of the GnRH agonist plus graded doses of testosterone resulted in mean nadir testosterone concentrations of 253, 306, 542, 1,345, and 2,370 ng/dl at the 25-, 50-, 125-, 300-, and 600-mg doses, respectively. Fat-free mass increased dose dependently in men receiving 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone weekly (change +3.4, 5.2, and 7.9 kg, respectively). The changes in fat-free mass were highly dependent on testosterone dose (P = 0.0001) and correlated with log testosterone concentrations (r = 0.73, P = 0.0001). Changes in leg press strength, leg power, thigh and quadriceps muscle volumes, hemoglobin, and IGF-I were positively correlated with testosterone concentrations, whereas changes in fat mass and plasma high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol were negatively correlated. Sexual function, visual-spatial cognition and mood, and PSA levels did not change significantly at any dose. We conclude that changes in circulating testosterone concentrations, induced by GnRH agonist and testosterone administration, are associated with testosterone dose- and concentration-dependent changes in fat-free mass, muscle size, strength and power, fat mass, hemoglobin, HDL cholesterol, and IGF-I levels, in conformity with a single linear dose-response relationship. However, different androgen-dependent processes have different testosterone dose-response relationships.
Nutritional intake. Energy and protein intakes were standardized at 36 kcal · kg-1 · day-1 and 1.2 g · kg-1 · day-1, respectively.
Exercise stimulus. The participants were asked not to undertake strength training or moderate-to-heavy endurance exercise during the study. These instructions were reinforced every 4 wk.
Randomization. Sixty-one eligible men were randomly assigned to one of five groups. All received monthly injections of a long-acting GnRH agonist to suppress endogenous testosterone production. In addition, group 1 received 25 mg of testosterone enanthate intramuscularly weekly; group 2, 50 mg testosterone enanthate; group 3, 125 mg testosterone enanthate; group 4, 300 mg testosterone enanthate; and group 5, 600 mg testosterone enanthate.
can you gimme an exact link where you got this from?
I'm not sure about the english words on those terms, but proteinbalance is a result of both proteinsynthesis and proteindegradation (no idea what's that called in english), so even though aas stimulate proteinsynthesis (WHICH EQUALS BUILDING MUSCLE) your musclemass can go down, due to your proteindegradation being larger than your proteinsynthesis.So what your saying right now is that if i did not eat or train that i would build muscle with just taking steroids, steroids DO NOT BUILD MUSCLE WITHOUT FOOD. Steroids are not anabolic that statement is wrong, they are anti catabolic. Steroids w no food means no muscle. Steroids do not build muscle without food. So to say steroids build muscle is incorrect. DO they speed up the process when added to training and diet reguardless of quality of either, definately.
wow. i was'nt expecting to see a small Fedorov. it's amazing how it takes years and years to get to the size he used to be and how quickly it can disappear.
Ben, if you didn't eat ANYTHING, sure, you'd shrink up. But steroids absolutely are anabolic, and they do build muscle. If you were on a lousy diet and barely worked out, but were on steroids, you'd probably grow.
thats was the same thing i was thinking .I guess he decided that bodybuilding was not for him...
Steroids act as a catalyst to the muscle building process. I understand what your saying but with no food steroids do not build tissue. How can something be tissue building if it by itself does not build tissue? I understand that steroids increases protein sythesis drastically, but without protein(food) you can't take advantage of the process. I definately agree with your last statement, but the person would grow because of food and steroids combined. Largely bc of the drastic increase in protein synthesis, but again it would not matter if you dont eat. I know u understand my point. i am saying steroids themselves will not add tissue. But your final sentence is more in context of the thread. yes drugs do make a huge differance.