Obama Chooses Joe Biden as Running Mate

[Tonyk212000]

^ So who will you vote for.

 

[Ironslave]

helping those who need it, sounds pretty good to me

Elaborate on this position please.

The problem with these systems is there are inefficient and abused. Universal health care is awful, and people in this system dish out close to half of everything they earn on taxes. The welfare state is bankrupting the country, and people are still complaining about education, taxes, and so on. Why should I pay the medical bills for a drug abuser, or an obese person, for example?

 

[Rageking]

Elaborate on this position please.

The problem with these systems is there are inefficient and abused. Universal health care is awful, and people in this system dish out close to half of everything they earn on taxes. The welfare state is bankrupting the country, and people are still complaining about education, taxes, and so on. Why should I pay the medical bills for a drug abuser, or an obese person, for example?

i see your point in that, but i also think we need to help those who are actually trying and cant support themselves and need medication that they cant afford.

 

[Rageking]

^ So who will you vote for.

 

[Ironslave]

^ So who will you vote for.

I'm gonna write in Ron Paul. Will it do anything, or even be counted? No, and probably not. But I don't care, it's the principle of it, he's the man who I want to be president, and as such, he gets my vote. Plus, I can know that I didn't vote for the lesser of two evils.

 

[Ironslave]

i see your point in that, but i also think we need to help those who are actually trying and cant support themselves and need medication that they cant afford.

Voluntarily? Absolutely, that should be your choice. But still, why should Peter be robbed to pay Paul?

This doesn't even take into account that in a government based price fixing system, prices NEVER go down. Advocates of government involved intervention to reduce prices in health/medicine for some reason think that health/medcine is the only field in which government can get involved in, and the price will lower. Not a chance.

Medication is unaffordable when the government programs only allow certain medications to be prescribed, and are prescribed at fixed prices. There are also systems where the health insurance covers one kind of medication, and doesn't another, and a bunch of other tangles.

In a pure capitalist system, the prices of these medications would go down. Not only this, but people would be paying less taxes overall, and thus would keep more of their wealth. If someone wishes to invest in a private insurance practice or anything, they should be able to do so, if it is their choice. It will certainly be more efficient than government.

 

[Braaq]

My biggest issue is the war, so needless to say he's probably the worst as far as this. He's just an overall neo-con scum bag. I think Obama means well, but McCain is just a piece of shit. McCain is pretty much no different than Bush, and he'd continue the uncontrollable spending on foreign wars, government spending, inflation, and so on.


Neither will do what America needs right now, ending the wars, minimizing government spending, lowering taxes, stop printing money, and actually creating affordable health care.

I am not a McCain supporter, you know that. But with Iraq making us go with that withdraw deal McCain cannot keep that war going much longer. So as for what you mention above he is for what you said above, because he is a conservative and those are conservative values. Now the only thing we have to worry about is if he will initiate a war with Iran...

 

[Ironslave]

I am not a McCain supporter, you know that. But with Iraq making us go with that withdraw deal McCain cannot keep that war going much longer. So as for what you mention above he is for what you said above, because he is a conservative and those are conservative values. Now the only thing we have to worry about is if he will initiate a war with Iran...

American troops are still in Korea, and 134 (that's no typo) countries around the world. None of these clowns will ever bring the troops home. They might tinker with it, change it up here and there, who knows. But it's naive to think any of them will really make a difference.

McCain is far from a conservative. Bush ran on all these typical republican principles in 2000, including ones of no nation building, and look what that led to here now 9 years later. All these neo-con's aren't really conservatives, they might implement a bit of it here and there just to save some face, but really, Bush has increased government size and spending like probably nobody else. Or how about his father's famous "read my lips, no new taxes." Whoops, that certainly didn't pan out.

The only way the wars will end is when the government finally realizes that they can't afford it any more, no sooner.

 

[Hypocrisy86]

American troops are still in Korea, and 134 (that's no typo) countries around the world. None of these clowns will ever bring the troops home. They might tinker with it, change it up here and there, who knows. But it's naive to think any of them will really make a difference.

McCain is far from a conservative. Bush ran on all these typical republican principles in 2000, including ones of no nation building, and look what that led to here now 9 years later. All these neo-con's aren't really conservatives, they might implement a bit of it here and there just to save some face, but really, Bush has increased government size and spending like probably nobody else. Or how about his father's famous "read my lips, no new taxes." Whoops, that certainly didn't pan out.

The only way the wars will end is when the government finally realizes that they can't afford it any more, no sooner.

For the anti-christs army to attack.


have to agree whole heartedly here, they are fakers, and deep deep down
Cowards.

we never know when to quit, and when someone proves that we (president, or whomeever..) fucked up, they just ignore it, and say this that, empty fucking words. thinking their some sort of .Human God.

 

[Oloz]

helping those who need it, sounds pretty good to me

Obama also said: "Anyone who has an income of over $250,000 doesn't need it" What does that sound like?

 

[Ironslave]

Obama also said: "Anyone who has an income of over $250,000 doesn't need it" What does that sound like?

 

[Flex]

Your boy George Galloway supports Barack Obama Ironslave. I wonder if he even knew about Ron Paul. This audio was recorded before RP decided to run for president.

 

[Ironslave]

I saw that Flex, I called him about this, LOL. I think Galloway is a major socialist, so that might have something to do with it.