so, when you stop roids, you lose all?

[Deathmaggot]

thats the question, i was talking nothing serious with my trainer and he told me that after you stop the cycle, you mostly lose all, not even muscle memory works... so in order to save the gains you must be injecting... for life?

and about the money, he told me that the average beginner cycle including blood analisys, supplements for the liver and etc etc may cost 1.500 € ( 1.500$ more or less), is that true?

 

[FOOTBALL FAN]

I dont know much about it but I know that you wont lose all your gains if you do it right

 

[TJ]

As long as you have a solid PCT plan you will keep the majority of your gains. Normally, you won't start to lose a significant amount of your gains until you reach heavier amounts. But even with a solid PCT plan your training and diet have to be spot on as well...which they should be if your running a cycle in the first place.

 

[Flash]

Depends what you try your 1st cycle. And it depends on what type of steroid(s) you use, will have an effect on keeping some of the gains. http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php should asnwer all your ?'s

 

[SerbMarko]

i think it depends on your genetics.. many factors will determine.. how much you loose.. i normally didnt loose much on the scale after a cycle.. but i got softer. and not as strong

 

[Big04pimpin]

Depends on a lot of factors. Diet, genetics, drugs (the big one). You can take certain drugs besides your PCT to limit or even totally stop loss of LM. You can take IGF-1 after a cycle and still gain some muscle and harden up at the same time. Also there are other tricks too that you do to minimize loss.

 

[Big04pimpin]

And the first cycle can cost as little as $60. Two bottles of test E at 250mg a bottle and 10 cc's a bottle will get you through but you gotta know the right people.

 

[Deathmaggot]

thx guys, i think that is the biggest problem, im not in the world and i dont know any people...
i dont know how am i gonna make it

 

[SRB]

it is possible to loose some of your gains , but not all .

i had a friend who lost lots of his gains after he stopped about one year ago

 

[clinton]

its way too expensive for a first cycle. Hope you dont get ripped off . Its only normal to lose some of your gains as your normal test levels will never be as high as the exogenous test you are taking in during your cycle.

 

[spstan29]

yea, a lot of factors go into how much muscle you lose off cycle. The best you can do is plan a proper cycle, with pct and make sure you have a clean diet and a strong workout routine.

 

[Big04pimpin]

stop bumping a thread thats over a year old.

 

[Big VIC]

stop bumping a thread thats over a year old.

X 10000000

 

[Hypocrisy86]

60$ thats too cheap to be real..

 

[Big04pimpin]

60$ thats too cheap to be real..

Not really bro. It used to be even cheaper before they really started to crack down. If you have a good source, it only cost them less than $5-10 (depending on the substance) to make it so there is really just a huge mark up.

 

[Hypocrisy86]

^ well one day i'll start but, i hope it doesn't get any more expensive.

 

[youngmusclejock]

You could always order cattle implant pellets and make your own Prop and Tren. Then you know exactly how much you have and what's in it.