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Hey everybody, I have a friend over here in New Zealand who I am currently visiting who has expressed interest in obtaining testosterone & possibly anabolic steroids however that is extremely difficult to do here in New Zealand. he did visit a TRT therapist, but he was JUST under the limit or the New Zealand limitation with his levels for getting any type of help . It looks like his main focus would be to initiate some sort of self monitored testosterone replacement therapy or TRT. He has his own personal gym decked out with all of anything you can imagine in a gym and he works out 5 times a week (normal rhythm) type of training Hypertrophy . He is in good shape, but he finds himself always being tired. He is hoping the TRT will allow him to gain more effectiveness in his workouts. Even though his consumption of food is what we would call a healthy diet (explained below) , He only eats at night and finds himself intermittently fasting. Apparently his mate used to use something called trenbolone. I’m sure I’m not spelling that right but either it’s not available anymore or it fell off the radar. My friend is in his early 50s, runs an active farm and is very healthy with the exception of the fact that he just can’t shed some of the weight he has. He’s not classified as being overweight by any health standard by any means, however, he would like to cut the fat and gain more muscle. He also presents 10-12 common symptoms of low T. He often finds himself having to take naps in the afternoon and still being tired when nighttime comes around and so after carefully analyzing and watching him for over a month, I’ve come to the conclusion that this man isn’t just looking for some “juice” to build up his biceps or anything like that I think he genuinely needs help. I also know he has seen at least 5 doctors concerning this and his numbers are right above the level for low testosterone.



The last part of this post is talking about the fact that here in New Zealand anabolic steroids as well as testosterone products are illegal unless they are low-grade testosterone supplements, which don’t really do anything anyway. This means the only way we’re getting anything to him is if we have a proxy buy it for him in another country and then mail it here discreetly. I have contacted several companies directly about shipping here and absolutely none of them will ship it here and after further research, I found out why.



My thought is that if we could get the testosterone into an alternative container that it might just slip through the mail and he would get it. I know there’s a risk there and anyone with information on how to go about doing this, we could sure use the help. That’s why I’m reaching out to you guys, hoping you can recommend something, maybe ask a little bit more questions about what he’s trying to do, and what’s good for him and also for him to get it safely.



I thank you all for keeping this discrete and looking into this and I welcome any feedback and suggestions that I can use to assist helping my friend with his issue.



To be clear, I’m not seeking testosterone. I’m only trying to help a friend who isn’t very tech savvy with finding a resource that will allow him to do this.



Jay



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  • Carnivore diet? (He has been on that for on and off 6 months )
  • Good sleep/not working to exhaustion (he does that sometimes)
  • Is he eating pasta/grains/carbs , converting over to sugar (he says carbs some , but not large portion of his diet.)
  • No pasta or rice , very few grains , mostly veggies,meat, eggs, mostly whole food,
 
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Hey everybody, I have a friend over here in New Zealand who I am currently visiting who has expressed interest in obtaining testosterone & possibly anabolic steroids however that is extremely difficult to do here in New Zealand. he did visit a TRT therapist, but he was JUST under the limit or the New Zealand limitation with his levels for getting any type of help . It looks like his main focus would be to initiate some sort of self monitored testosterone replacement therapy or TRT. He has his own personal gym decked out with all of anything you can imagine in a gym and he works out 5 times a week (normal rhythm) type of training Hypertrophy . He is in good shape, but he finds himself always being tired. He is hoping the TRT will allow him to gain more effectiveness in his workouts. Even though his consumption of food is what we would call a healthy diet (explained below) , He only eats at night and finds himself intermittently fasting. Apparently his mate used to use something called trenbolone. I’m sure I’m not spelling that right but either it’s not available anymore or it fell off the radar. My friend is in his early 50s, runs an active farm and is very healthy with the exception of the fact that he just can’t shed some of the weight he has. He’s not classified as being overweight by any health standard by any means, however, he would like to cut the fat and gain more muscle. He also presents 10-12 common symptoms of low T. He often finds himself having to take naps in the afternoon and still being tired when nighttime comes around and so after carefully analyzing and watching him for over a month, I’ve come to the conclusion that this man isn’t just looking for some “juice” to build up his biceps or anything like that I think he genuinely needs help. I also know he has seen at least 5 doctors concerning this and his numbers are right above the level for low testosterone.



The last part of this post is talking about the fact that here in New Zealand anabolic steroids as well as testosterone products are illegal unless they are low-grade testosterone supplements, which don’t really do anything anyway. This means the only way we’re getting anything to him is if we have a proxy buy it for him in another country and then mail it here discreetly. I have contacted several companies directly about shipping here and absolutely none of them will ship it here and after further research, I found out why.



My thought is that if we could get the testosterone into an alternative container that it might just slip through the mail and he would get it. I know there’s a risk there and anyone with information on how to go about doing this, we could sure use the help. That’s why I’m reaching out to you guys, hoping you can recommend something, maybe ask a little bit more questions about what he’s trying to do, and what’s good for him and also for him to get it safely.



I thank you all for keeping this discrete and looking into this and I welcome any feedback and suggestions that I can use to assist helping my friend with his issue.



To be clear, I’m not seeking testosterone. I’m only trying to help a friend who isn’t very tech savvy with finding a resource that will allow him to do this.



Jay



Suggested help/information requested/needed



  • Carnivore diet? (He has been on that for on and off 6 months )
  • Good sleep/not working to exhaustion (he does that sometimes)
  • Is he eating pasta/grains/carbs , converting over to sugar (he says carbs some , but not large portion of his diet.)
  • No pasta or rice , very few grains , mostly veggies,meat, eggs, mostly whole food,
sounds like he needs trt but the I would not talk about shipping or any way of receiving it if it's illegal. save that for a private pm once u find a good source.

Trt should do it and I do self trt and I have gotten lazy. I have not got blood work in over a year and have no desire to.
the only good thing I have for myself is Kaiser has some type of test clinic now because 7 years ago I was 450ng at 37 and they said I was way too high to add trt without hurting myself.
 
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sounds like he needs trt but the I would not talk about shipping or any way of receiving it if it's illegal. save that for a private pm once u find a good source.

Trt should do it and I do self trt and I have gotten lazy. I have not got blood work in over a year and have no desire to.
the only good thing I have for myself is Kaiser has some type of test clinic now because 7 years ago I was 450ng at 37 and they said I was way too high to add trt without hurting myself.
I am sorry I didn’t realize it was illegal to ship any type of supplement or medication I’m just dealing with the fact that they don’t want to help him out in his home country and I was hoping we could get some thing from outside the country. thank you for the heads up on the post. I guess I can edit it. If I get you more information, can I PM you for you to give suggestion for him? What direction to go in?
 
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I am sorry I didn’t realize it was illegal to ship any type of supplement or medication I’m just dealing with the fact that they don’t want to help him out in his home country and I was hoping we could get some thing from outside the country. thank you for the heads up on the post. I guess I can edit it. If I get you more information, can I PM you for you to give suggestion for him? What direction to go in?
no worries
there are many people to help you here.
 
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Trt helps millions of people. Don't feel guilty asking about it.
 
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I think what he is confusion is everyone is he’s not not sure how to go about it. First issue is he’s been to many doctors and clinics here in New Zealand and they all said he’s under the level to qualify. So going on that it’s a matter of finding someone who is knowledgeable about who can provide something safe for him to try and then figuring out how to get it to him safely without any hangups. I’ve been asked on several forms to provide blood test results so people could get a better idea of what he needs. To be honest, I’m not really sure what direction to go so I’m just crossing a very wide across 12 different forums and some of them are just advertising products and not really explaining the part I get lost is I’m not into this so I don’t understand any of it so it’s not like I’m just gonna say here go take this pill and everything will be fine because I don’t know that that’s true.

A better question would help him determine what he needs and where can we find it safely and get it to him!
 
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Trt helps millions of people. Don't feel guilty asking about it.
I don’t feel guilty, more confused, people are more than happy to throw a bottle of their stuff at him, but no one wants to give safe information that will help him make a good decision.
 
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no worries
there are many people to help you here.
I am hoping you are right, I’m on at least 10 forums and so far all I have seen were attempts to ask for more info, and when I provided it, they all vanished. I guess I can’t forget the endless supply of unsolicited ads to “try our snake oil” with absolutely no information or reason behind why.
 
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I am hoping you are right, I’m on at least 10 forums and so far all I have seen were attempts to ask for more info, and when I provided it, they all vanished. I guess I can’t forget the endless supply of unsolicited ads to “try our snake oil” with absolutely no information or reason behind why.
There are legal reasons behind people not wanting to give details.

What’s your friend testosterone level?
 
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There are legal reasons behind people not wanting to give details.

What’s your friend testosterone level?
Hi there, thank you for getting back to me. I will get that information to you and let him know you requested it. Do you want it in a private message or a publicly posted?
 
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Can you define what you mean by that, a three word post on my thread doesn’t really tell me anything?

Sorry, friend.

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I am hoping you are right, I’m on at least 10 forums and so far all I have seen were attempts to ask for more info, and when I provided it, they all vanished. I guess I can’t forget the endless supply of unsolicited ads to “try our snake oil” with absolutely no information or reason behind why.
Testosterone is not snake oil. Many of the ads are from people who keep this site alive. Trt is life changing for us older guys.
 
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Hi there, thank you for getting back to me. I will get that information to you and let him know you requested it. Do you want it in a private message or a publicly posted?
I can’t speak for TA but people post their bloodwork here all the time.
 

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