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Var, worth it?

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Is the premium one pays for anavar compared to a similar oral like winstrol worth it? Any experience with both drugs? Thanks.
 
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Not worth it imo. Its to mild to get some serious mass. Imo if you wanna cycle you should have a test base.
 
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anavar is great....many prefer anavar over winny due to less side effects and mainly because of the joint issue with winstrol.. i find it rather pricy and pointless unless your doing a show.
 
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I think winstrol is a better sustitute for the money cause it can be very expensive and if your supplier isnt reliable then you could lose all that money.
 
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Is the premium one pays for anavar compared to a similar oral like winstrol worth it? Any experience with both drugs? Thanks.

Anavar is the most mild oral out there and gives great strength gains but little mass gains. Winstrol is very harsh on the body and gives a nice hard look but also thickens tendons making them brittle and weak.
 
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Thanks, I've heard that all around var is better than winny especially in the strength department. Im going to include it in a test/tren cutting cycle or possibly use it after as a bridge to keep some weight on. I've used winstrol and did experience some joint pain, that's why i'm asking. I'm not looking to bulk this cycle but like being fucking strong.
 
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Besides the expensive price the strength gains and fat burning properties of var are noteworthy.
 
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what would var alone do if i have size but want to get cut and loose some fat
 
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Var is great for cutting man. Im on Test/Tren cycle kickstarting it with Anavar. This is the second week i'm ON so far. Running Var at 50mg ED, strength gains are unbelieveable and the pump is great!. Lifts have already improved 10% minimum while some have gone up by 25%!!!. It's also true about what they say about it reducing abdominal fat my midsection has already gotten tighter. I also find it's very good at suppressing appetite which is good if your cutting.

If you want to cut some fat and get strong go for Anavar.

It's true what Wolf said Winstrol is very hard on the body, reducing your HDL cholesterol and making your joints more susceptible to injury, its also quite hepatoxic (stressful to the liver) unlike Anavar which is very mild on the body.

Winstrol is a DHT derivative, DHT and DHT derivatives reduce Estrogen/Progesterone, this in turn reduces your body's production of anti-inflammatory and painkilling cytokines and this is what causes Winstrol to cause joint pain. So when one undergoes reductions in estrogen and progesterone, bone mineral density and collagen will suffer deleterious effects.

I'm using Milk Thistle right now while i'm on the orals, it's always a good idea to be using some sort of liver support supplement while using orals.
 
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Do you need PCT with an Anavar only cycle? and what would be a decent length to use it for? 10 weeks?
 
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Do you need PCT with an Anavar only cycle? and what would be a decent length to use it for? 10 weeks?

Why would you only use Anavar? Yes you still would need a PCT.
 
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For sport....strength gains with minimal weight gains.
 
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For sport....strength gains with minimal weight gains.

Why not just run low dose test? Like prop EOD at 50 mg's .. Far better results than what you'll get with anavar.
 
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For sport....strength gains with minimal weight gains.

As long as you keep calories the same you won't gain any weight. Depending on your training you may gain some muscle and lose some fat but overall weight will stay the same (well, maybe a few pounds if you bloat).
 
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ya its not for me its for my buddy who's in MMA...so from what ive researched 50mg ED is a proper dosage....8-12 week cycles. Does that sound right? also ive read it doesnt total shut down natural hormone production so what exactly would pct require? just an OTC one or should he go with nolva? any recommendations would be appreciated.
 
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I would go with clomid since its just anavar. I am done with nolva alone for a PCT. I have never rebounded as good with just nolva. It might just be my body but I hate it for stand alone PCT.
 
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