Victor vs. Jay Comparisons

[Line]

Victor Martinez for Ronnie Coleman fans is like Luke Skywalker for the Jedi. A new hope.

I'm not sure if I should positive or negative rep you for this...eh, I'm feeling generous today.

 

[Flash]

Wow i missed mr o till now, (AIT training) but thats bull thatjay won, he doesnt look 1/2 as good as he did for mr o 06 and hes so watery. Victor has more striations, better symetry i.e. everything.... to bad Ronnie had to lose to that in his final mr o. Victor should of won but if jay looked this bad in 07, 08 he shouldnt get top 5 hopefully.

 

[ruel]

vic got this! vic deserves to win... this is an example that the fave and reighning O cant be beaten!

 

[cem]

This is bodybuilding so Vic should win, he's got shape, lines, conditioning n size (albeit slightly less dan jay).Jay is just a fridge.

 

[frosty canadian]

Don't see how Vic is better than Jay.

I like Vic and do think he is well spoken and would be a good ambassador for the sport,but Jay has better legs,bigger through the shoulders and back;and don't see how Vic should have clearly beaten Jay from these pics.I guess we'll see next year, when Wolf is in the mix for the title.

 

[Pioneer]

Victor Martinez for Ronnie Coleman fans is like Luke Skywalker for the Jedi. A new hope.

LOL Thats real good comparison...

 

[mvsf1]

For those who doesn't believe Jay's wider than Vic:

http://www.musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6507&d=1191041592


Look at their shoulders... Jay's 15-20% wider there.

 

[TTTT]

For those who doesn't believe Jay's wider than Vic:

http://www.musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6507&d=1191041592


Look at their shoulders... Jay's 15-20% wider there.

Damn. Jay was so soft!

 

[xolix]

oh man !!! ronnie in top form was so much better than this 2 guys at the top !!!!
i will miss him on stage !!!

 

[KingDeadlift]

I disagree its very close on all poses...cutler wins in the mass department hands down...martinez is more symetrical and there both conditioned....you gotta really give the judges a reason to beat the champ and i think its to close to do that. We'll see...right now its up in the air

they were both conditioned... but Vic's conditioning was much better those nights.

 

[Ruhlforever]

Jay looked terribly watery, every Jay Cutler fan talked against 2002 Ronnie Coleman winning, of course Ronnie looked terrible, but life is funny, now, Jay Cutler fans are being under attack and tasting what Ronnie fans suffered from 2002 where Ronnie received a gift from Weider, this applies for Arnold in the 80, for Dorina in 1997 and now for Jay Cutler that received a gift from Weider keeping the tradition of polemic Olympias. Well Jay fans it's time for you to taste this flavour.

 

[Ruhlforever]

The Reward and punishment Law for Jay

they were both conditioned... but Vic's conditioning was much better those nights.

Remember: Mass is not that important, you were criticizing Ronnie for three years for his mass increase. If Jay does not come in condition for next year I think that the new Judge's concept of having mass with CONDITION and SYMMETRY would be the key factor for winning the Olympia. I said Victor can easily increase his frame in 5-15 lbs without loosing his SYMMETRY that is far beyond Jay Cutler. So if Cutler plays Ronnie's game of increasing his mass and weight without control would be a factor to be a runner up aging or being retired from competition.

 

[jdowden87]

For those who doesn't believe Jay's wider than Vic:

http://www.musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6507&d=1191041592


Look at their shoulders... Jay's 15-20% wider there.

jay's shoulders don't look that much wider that vic's. jay is holding his arms out alot farther which makes him appear wider...

 

[Line]

Look at their shoulders... Jay's 15-20% wider there.

The way you come up with these numbers is absolutely mind-blowing.

 

[Q80_Musclehed]

I agree that this is Victor's show to lose, but Jay beats Vic in the rear double bi. Victor has him in the rear lat, but not the BDB. Notice Jay's hamstrings look better in the BDB, while Vic has him in glutes. Jay has too much overpowering mass in the back to say he loses to Martinez.

agreed with u man on the lower part of the pose ( legs ) that jay's hams and calves are better .. but come on on he's got no chance when it comes to bacl details .. Victor's lower back is over Jay's .. as well as with the details on the upper buddy

 

[Ruhlforever]

For those who doesn't believe Jay's wider than Vic:

http://www.musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6507&d=1191041592


Look at their shoulders... Jay's 15-20% wider there.

Amigo en total desacuerdo con su merced

I am not agree with that point of view, Victor can only have 3% BF while jay is more watery, in terms of shoulders look the position in which Jay lifts his arms

 

[Ruhlforever]

Vic does look better as of now, still tomorrow night...Funny to see a lot of the Coleman fans jump ship and go to Vic just out of spit for Cutler

It is the same as Prophet Jesus recommended over Peter and his followers, the followers needed to follow Peter based on Jesus comments

Mohammed (PBUH) adviced followers to follow Ali and his FAMILY this apply for muslims

Ha hahahaha, sorry but this is religion, BUT our beloved Ronnie, our dear Ronnie adviced us to follow VICTOR and VICTOR did not dissapoint anyone, he is the next big thing with AESTHETICS and MASS.

 

[Iceman1981]

Some comparisons from the final. Jay came in tighter, but I think Victor still won and had him in the conditioning department.

 

[Iceman1981]

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[Iceman1981]

.... last one. If Jay had posed more during his routine rather than standing there doing nothing, I would post more comparisons