Mr Olympia 2010 - Results!

[Natzo]

Wolf's routine was awesome!

 

[kn609]

Phil got robbed.

Not really, not at all. Jay winning was as fair as it could get. If you can't see that then you are way too biased.

Pretty upset with Kai, but even more upset that tkd will be poking fun at us Kai fans about this for a year, lol. Man, this is 2 Olympias that Kai ****ed up. If only he had Dex's consistency.


I agree with what Dilated mentioned before, Jay's back looked like it regressed a LITTLE bit to me. It just didn't seem as impressive as it did last year, though it was still impressive nonetheless (don't hurt me Jay fans).

 

[mvsf1]

I agree with the judges, prejudging was REALLY close, almost like that Jay vs Ronnie 2005 prejudging. Jay improved more than Phil during the night and to me Cutler erased any shadow of a doubt tonight.

 

[Rageking]

wow congrats to jay and phil, both looked great, although jay last year was better.

man kai really f'd up, he looked bad... why couldnt he just bring arnold package

 

[Lionheart]

Overall one of the best Olympians ive seen.The whole group of top 6 guys came in great condition!

 

[dilatedmuscle]

Overall one of the best Olympians ive seen.The whole group of top 6 guys came in great condition!

I agree, i was blown away by the top 4

 

[dilatedmuscle]

Kai via twitter via facebook...

Im deeply disappointed my Olympia finish didnt liveup to my expectation & that I let my fans down. Not much to say now-Thanx for support

 

[Beau]

Was a great show! Top 6 looked great. I woulda had Rockel in 5th and Wolf in 6th but it is what it is.

In regards to the Branch video on MD, i'm sick of this "most improved" guy on stage bs. Anyone can improve but that doesn't mean your better or deserve to be placed ahead of the guys that beat you last year. No offense but Branch had and has shit he needs to improve on ie back, arms. I mean he can improve some next year and still be behind more genetically gifted athletes. Guys like Jay and Phil are pretty damn complete. He should be happy with the 3rd place behind those 2 IMO

 

[pakiman]

i'm very curious to hear something from kai or oscar arden.
really looking forward to understandind what went wrong...

... as if anyone can understand what they say...!!! I cant help but bring up Kai's comment about Oscar's diet plan what was it...? "stick to Oscar's diet plan it works like magic"

 

[kn609]

Was a great show! Top 6 looked great. I woulda had Rockel in 5th and Wolf in 6th but it is what it is.

In regards to the Branch video on MD, i'm sick of this "most improved" guy on stage bs. Anyone can improve but that doesn't mean your better or deserve to be placed ahead of the guys that beat you last year. No offense but Branch had and has shit he needs to improve on ie back, arms. I mean he can improve some next year and still be behind more genetically gifted athletes. Guys like Jay and Phil are pretty damn complete. He should be happy with the 3rd place behind those 2 IMO

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I'll admit, Branch's conditioning is stellar, but this is a bodybuilding competition and conditioning and freak factor are the only things he brings. His physique is ugly and he has many lagging parts.

 

[dilatedmuscle]

... as if anyone can understand what they say...!!! I cant help but bring up Kai's comment about Oscar's diet plan what was it...? "stick to Oscar's diet plan it works like magic"

Arguably he looked better 1 week before. Im wondering if he got sick, as i said before, when bodybuilders get sick they lose fullness, hold skin water and their abs get really soft... same thing happened to Phil, Flex Lewis and a few others.... Honestly though i dont espect many people to buy the sickness excuse since its a valid excuse and the kai haters want nothing more then to laugh at a mistake then to understand a misfortune.

 

[Beau]

^Ditch the weird avi bro lol...

 

[tim290280]

Arguably he looked better 1 week before. Im wondering if he got sick, as i said before, when bodybuilders get sick they lose fullness, hold skin water and their abs get really soft... same thing happened to Phil, Flex Lewis and a few others.... Honestly though i dont espect many people to buy the sickness excuse since its a valid excuse and the kai haters want nothing more then to laugh at a mistake then to understand a misfortune.

I'm fine with him being sick or whatever. Phil had that issue last year and made up for it this year. As long as Kai owns up to rather than makes an excuse of his poor showing. Too many times we hear the Wolf comments, and as fans that just gets annoying.

Honestly though I don't know how Phil can beat Jay without ruining his lines. Jay was just fridge-tacular! Phil looked small next to him while both looking like easily the two best on stage.

 

[The King Of Lurkers]

Jay was just fridge-tacular!

His waist was the smallest since 2005 tho

 

[Flex]

Arguably he looked better 1 week before. Im wondering if he got sick, as i said before, when bodybuilders get sick they lose fullness, hold skin water and their abs get really soft... same thing happened to Phil, Flex Lewis and a few others.... Honestly though i dont espect many people to buy the sickness excuse since its a valid excuse and the kai haters want nothing more then to laugh at a mistake then to understand a misfortune.

If he was sick, he would of told us by now that he got sick.

Kai more than likely just tried too much towards the end. Probably ate too much leading up. Oscar's diet plans are pretty drastic it seems, which means more of a chance of a ****up...this certainly was a **** up on his part....

He was very flat, which made him appear less conditioned. And, he seemed to have over-ate, which made his stomach look out of control.

 

[dilatedmuscle]

Yeah but he hasnt really talked to anyone about what happened. I agree though Oscars methods are hit or miss... He will win the next ASC unless phil has something to say about it.

I was very pleased with dexter, he looked really really good, IMO better then last year, he was as full as 08 but as ripped as 09.

 

[Storm]

Honestly though I don't know how Phil can beat Jay without ruining his lines. Jay was just fridge-tacular! Phil looked small next to him while both looking like easily the two best on stage.

If the criteria is who is the widest Phil will never win. Symmetry and proportions should play a role in judging but we all know how has it been for years... It will be a matter of conditioning IMO, if Jay doesn't nail it Phil will take the sandow. That or injury/degradation in Jay's phisique, something like ronnie's lat/tri.
BTW anyone noticed something wrong with Branch's right lat?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

BTW anyone noticed something wrong with Branch's right lat?

It's been like that for some years now.

 

[tkD]

This was before the Olympia:

Oscar talking about Kai's prep for the O - http://www.flexonline.com/news/1441

FLEX: With the Olympia days away, there are all kinds of numbers flying around as to what Kai is weighing and how heavy he?ll be when he takes the stage. What can you tell us about this?

OSCAR ARDON: The truth is, Kai is ready to step on stage now! He weighed in this morning at 277 pounds, and then stepped on the scale at 279 after a meal. He has paper-thin skin and is more shredded than he was at 255 pounds!

FLEX: So he?s actually heavier than he was a couple weeks ago when he was reported to be 274? How is this possible?

OA: He?s eating more food right now! For instance, today he had steak and three packets of grits for breakfast. For dinner last night he had one pound of fish and two cups of rice. For the last 10 weeks, he?s been eating eight meals a day. First meal is steak and grits. Second meal is orange roughy fish and baked potato. For his third meal he?ll eat more steak and fibrous carbs. After training he eats one lb. of flounder with two cups rice. Other meals are more protein and fibrous carbs. He?s been taking in 200 grams of carbs a day to support his training, mostly in two meals. Eating like this for the entire prep period got him to the point he is now ? his metabolism is racing. So for the last few weeks I had to cut back on cardio AND increase his food intake. His body dictates what I do.

FLEX: So the goal is to bring Kai in bigger and heavier than in 2009?

OA: The goal is not just to be bigger, but the best conditioned. And Kai?s actually getting bigger. He will walk on stage the biggest and most shredded he?s ever been. To win the Olympia, that?s what?s needed. I?ve heard some people say, ?Kai is big and freaky, but Phil Heath has aesthetic, pretty muscles,? and that?s supposed to be his advantage. But the Olympia is not about pretty little bodies. If that were the case, Lee Labrada or Shawn Ray would have beaten Dorian Yates every time. But for the O, the winner has to be the biggest, hardest bodybuilder. Also symmetry and cuts and condition, yes, but with freaky mass. Phil is giving up 30 or 40 pounds to Kai, and Kai will be in his best condition ever. Last year Jay Cutler was around 255 pounds and Kai is an inch or two shorter and he?ll be much heavier than that. His waist is smaller and tighter, even though he?s bigger. This is the best training he?s ever had.


FLEX: The word on the street is that Kai is still using heavy lifting for his contest prep. Will this lead to him being blocky instead of symmetrical?

OA: There is a direct correlation between the weight you lift and the muscle mass you carry. And no one pushes more weight or works harder than Kai. His training has been so severe and intense that we had to cut back to four days a week for this Olympia prep. It worked for Arnold, Lee Haney and Dorian, so it must work for Kai. Go heavy and brutal on the basic barbell exercises.

FLEX: What kind of schedule has Kai been following?

OA: On Sunday he usually trains back, including heavy deadlifts, T-bar rows, chins, one-arm dumbbell rows and pulldowns. At the end of the session he?s lying on the floor in a bucket of sweat! Some people go to church on Sunday, but Kai goes to the gym! On Monday he?s off, just doing cardio and posing. Then Tuesday it?s chest and arms. He?s the thickest ever because this is heaviest weights he?s ever used in training. Kai actually benched 585 lbs. for four reps last week! That?s six plates on each side of the bar! He then stripped to five plates, then four plates, then three plates, hitting higher reps each time. Heavy incline presses come next, with 315 for high-rep sets. Then he?ll train arms with lighter weights. More isolation, aiming for 12-20 reps on every bi's and tri's exercises. Focus is on contraction; not much rest between sets. Moderately heavy weight feels heavy and hard if you?re doing it correctly.

Wednesday is a rest day because for chest and arms, as we do it, you need extra rest. The harder you train, the more rest you need. He has been training so hard he didn?t need as much cardio. Didn?t need to go five or six days a week with the weights either, or he?d break down muscle tissue.

On Thursday he hits shoulders and traps with heavy military presses, plus lots of dumbbell work on front, side and bent laterals. He presses 315 pounds overhead for reps until he can?t move, then after a short rest he does it again. He blasts his muscles on every set. For traps he?ll work set after set of heavy shrugs, plus bent-over shrugs for his mid-back trapezius thickness.

We hit legs on Friday. Kai squats 20 reps on every set. Starts with one plate, then two plates, three plates and four plates. Deep bucket squats. On his last few sets he?s squatting five plates for 20 reps! Then we do walking lunges on basketball court. His physique is so hard and ultra-muscular because he?s busting his ass every set.



Saturday is a complete rest day. We?ve been doing this the entire Olympia whole prep. Kai also does cardio and abs in a.m. He started at 15 minutes, then 30 later on, and finally 1 hr. per session. But the last two weeks I?ve had to cut him down on cardio because all his body fat was gone. Didn?t want to burn muscle tissue so we cut back. Had to cut back cardio so he could come in full and hard.


FLEX: Did you do anything different with Kai?s diet to support this heavy training right up to show week?

OA: The last two weeks have been a little unusual. Every training session became super-intense, but he was taking in just enough food to get through training and then have little recovery. He?s going on fumes. Eating a lot, but burning through all of it. Everything so precise at this stage. If I will err, I?ll err toward more recovery instead of overtraining. If we do things wrong he could lose muscle mass or hold water weight. And the wrong thing now would be to overdo cardio. So no cardio today or yesterday. He?s already ripped, so no need for cardio. Need to hold energy to train. Cardio has already done its job. His metabolism is up and body fat down.


FLEX: How does Kai compare right now with last year?s Olympia or his other contests?

OA: People usually say Kai?s best conditioning was in 2009 for the Arnold. But two weeks before the show he was out in California prepping and he was severely overtrained, underfed and ready to lose it. When I got out there two weeks before the show he was big, but soft and flat. As soon as I looked at him I knew he was way overtrained, so I gave him two days of complete rest and let him eat anything he wanted (donuts, pasta, anything!). In two days he put on 12 lbs. just by just filling out. Then for two weeks we went crazy training and getting him ready. In just 12 days we got him in perfect shape and fine-tuned to win. So we learned then that because he is so totally committed he has tendency to overtrain.

That?s something we both know now that we also did while training for seven weeks in Vegas before the 2009 Olympia. Last year his legs looked weaker from the front than they should have because he trained legs the Monday of contest week. But whenever you train legs so close to a show, you attract water to your muscles, which obscures your definition. Looks like you?re carrying water ? not crisp and dry. This year, we did our last leg session early last week so his legs are fully recovered and will be totally dry.

FLEX: So Kai is ready to bring it to the stage on Friday night?

OA: This is the best prep we?ve ever had and he?s in his best shape ever. Kai is easy to work with because he?s committed. I say jump and he says ?how high.? I ask him for input and I tell him what I?m doing to get good feedback from him. All of it works together ? diet, training, psychological, counseling, etc. Keep his mindset positive and strong. Can?t be a thought of doubt in his mind. Need to increase self-discipline every day.

I have never known anyone who wants anything so bad. He works harder than any bodybuilder I have ever seen. For Kai this victory means the fulfillment of a lifelong dream. I know in heart of hearts no one trains like him ? 24 hours a day, he lives it. He wants to dominate the sport and leave a legacy. When I dry him out the last 24 hours you?re gonna see the craziest Mr. Olympia to every set on stage!

Oscar is so ****ing delusional it's not even funny.

-Sunday's he trains back... "Some people go to church on Sunday, but Kai goes to the gym!" :icon_rolleyes:
-Oscar thinks that Kai will be the best Mr O ever!!! "When I dry him out the last 24 hours you?re gonna see the craziest Mr. Olympia to every set on stage!"

"craziest Mr O to every set on stage you haterz!!!!!!!!"

 

[tkD]

Phil looked so much improved from the Arnold it's scary, full and round muscle bellies like he's gonna explode