Drealdeal transformation (M4BTEAM CONTEST)

[Drealdeal]

Back on my game! Feeling better so it's time train Delts, traps and calves

Gearz

5iu Hgh

NPP 100mg

Dbol 50mg

Cialis 15mg

TEST NO ESTER 100mg

Igf1 lr3 50mcgs post training

Now guys I pose a question,
Am I spinning my wheels by running 5iu Hgh everyday w no exogenous insulin?

Reason being ,5iu Hgh will hault the pancreas marty production therefore Man I g it work harder and theoretically burning it out.

Please share experiences and any advice or knowledge....im not gunna use insulin so if the Hgh is doing more damage then good I'll stop that as well.
Thanks
Drd

I run 5 iu everyday in split doses.
If i don't use t3/t4 with it I can't stay awake but this is due to thyroid suppression hgh causes. It really suppressed mine.

I use digestive enzymes that are good and help out pancreas.

My thoughts are this, if u use it always fasted 1 hour and fast 1 hour after glucose levels will not rise to the point of pancreas having to make a bunch of insulin.

There are people who can eat 20000 cals a day and pancreas provides enough insulin, they never develops type 2 diabetes.
Type 2 is genetic BUT one has to still be overweight for long time and insulin resistance starts from too much floating around.

With type 2 diabetes people often continue to make way way too much insulin even with glucopage and still their pancreas provides even though it provides way too much

Sometimes it can get burned out and type 2 diabetic person would then needs insulin but not as common.

Type 1 body has no trouble shuttling glucose with transporter (insulin)
Their cells receptors use it with no problem.
But with type 1 diabetes their pancreas gives out and stops making insulin completely. This often happens before 12 years old and after a virus that attacks the pancreas. Type 1 person has auto-immune problem that immune system can't fight off this virus at the pancreas.

This is my way looking at if hgh will cause a problem or not. 5iu a day a doubt will cause such a problem.

My fasted glucose was running around 108
After being on hgh my fasting glucose has been 65 and 79 the other time.

My analergy of these two conditions is what I can see pancreas failing vs not.

Thanks MM

It's just my 2cents on what u understand about type 1 compared to type 2.

I know hgh increases glycogen levels in liver which also liver manufactors IGF.

The glycogen is from stored carbs or fats converted into glucose. This is one of main reasons fat burning and loss occurs.
And reason we wanna be fasted 1 hour before and after.

If not fasted glucose levels will be really high from carbs eaten= glucose and hgh making liver manufactor glycogen=glucose
This will or can cause a problem.

My thoughts or beliefs or these, if we stay pretty lean we will get to the point that we will not have much fat to be converted into glycogen and glucose levels will not continually be elevated.
Also splitting dose will be easier on not so much conversion at a time.

Another thing to keep in mind is out insulin is controlled and released with many factors with thyroid being one of them.

I believe that with thyroid suppression from hgh this can be impaired.
Most people with type 2 diabetes or non-alcohol fatty liver disease have underlying thyroid issues.

Using gear especially with hgh enough thyroid should be available for metabolism to keep up. One can developed fatty liver from having too high of BMI and sustaining too much body fat even if most of BMI is made up of muscle mass.
Body has to or stores fat around liver to fuel muscle.
This is one reason at my age if 42 I try to keep my BMI under 32 and for mind if its 29 when I am 7% bf. I would like to have BMI of 32 at 7% but it's pushing it.
This is reason today I stay between 190-210 at most.

Anyway I will research being it is a concern I should have with hgh too.
But these things above are what I learned over years and believe and is my option on how our body works with alot if things we are doing.

Hope i made sense. It's putting it into words I know others can understand what I an saying I have trouble with.

This is more of the answer I was looking for and yes it makes sense for sure...i just hate to waste Hgh.

 

[Drealdeal]

I don't know what it is this time, diet training maybe quality of the product (i usually use all the cheap stuff up and hoard the top gearz) maybe running lower test I just don't know but I'm seeing more separation fuller muscle bellies and vascularity than ever! Maybe it's a combo.
I have been training like a madman eating like a monk and pinning less gear than usual cycles . Win or lose I am super excited to see what limits I can reach

A huge thank u to Muscle Mecca, M4BTEAM ,mountain man and my fellow participants . This is ,aside from getting sick been amazing so far .
Super stoked

Drd

 

[Drealdeal]

I'm going to up the npp just a bit from 350 to 450 ew. So far 350 been great which is weird but like I said I'm using a very respected proven lab .

I did drop 3rd to 250 a week as well usually I'm pushing a gram but I'm happy w this dose this is test cup btw as well as using TNE 3xs a week but he half life is less than 24hrs so I see no reason to add it to the totals unless it was for bloodwork purposes.

Blood work will be drawn in 2 weeks just to be safe.

 

[Big Beef]

I don't know what it is this time, diet training maybe quality of the product (i usually use all the cheap stuff up and hoard the top gearz) maybe running lower test I just don't know but I'm seeing more separation fuller muscle bellies and vascularity than ever! Maybe it's a combo.
I have been training like a madman eating like a monk and pinning less gear than usual cycles . Win or lose I am super excited to see what limits I can reach

A huge thank u to Muscle Mecca, M4BTEAM ,mountain man and my fellow participants . This is ,aside from getting sick been amazing so far .
Super stoked

Drd

That's awesome it's going so well for ya bro. I'm sure your dedication will pay off

 

[Thudgens96]

I don't know what it is this time, diet training maybe quality of the product (i usually use all the cheap stuff up and hoard the top gearz) maybe running lower test I just don't know but I'm seeing more separation fuller muscle bellies and vascularity than ever! Maybe it's a combo.
I have been training like a madman eating like a monk and pinning less gear than usual cycles . Win or lose I am super excited to see what limits I can reach

A huge thank u to Muscle Mecca, M4BTEAM ,mountain man and my fellow participants . This is ,aside from getting sick been amazing so far .
Super stoked

Drd

Very cool my man. That's what I like to hear.

 

[Drealdeal]

I don't know what it is this time, diet training maybe quality of the product (i usually use all the cheap stuff up and hoard the top gearz) maybe running lower test I just don't know but I'm seeing more separation fuller muscle bellies and vascularity than ever! Maybe it's a combo.
I have been training like a madman eating like a monk and pinning less gear than usual cycles . Win or lose I am super excited to see what limits I can reach

A huge thank u to Muscle Mecca, M4BTEAM ,mountain man and my fellow participants . This is ,aside from getting sick been amazing so far .
Super stoked

Drd

That's awesome it's going so well for ya bro. I'm sure your dedication will pay off

Thanks man

I don't know what it is this time, diet training maybe quality of the product (i usually use all the cheap stuff up and hoard the top gearz) maybe running lower test I just don't know but I'm seeing more separation fuller muscle bellies and vascularity than ever! Maybe it's a combo.
I have been training like a madman eating like a monk and pinning less gear than usual cycles . Win or lose I am super excited to see what limits I can reach

A huge thank u to Muscle Mecca, M4BTEAM ,mountain man and my fellow participants . This is ,aside from getting sick been amazing so far .
Super stoked

Drd

Very cool my man. That's what I like to hear.

Well u should especially

 

[Muscle mechanic]

I'm going to up the npp just a bit from 350 to 450 ew. So far 350 been great which is weird but like I said I'm using a very respected proven lab .

I did drop 3rd to 250 a week as well usually I'm pushing a gram but I'm happy w this dose this is test cup btw as well as using TNE 3xs a week but he half life is less than 24hrs so I see no reason to add it to the totals unless it was for bloodwork purposes.

Blood work will be drawn in 2 weeks just to be safe.

With hgh quilty deca and testosterone or best and best ran mild to avoid bloat.
Npp is better choice than deca and believe or not your protien synthesis is awsome of npp at that dose.
Your test is enough to provide androgen binding without too much estro.
Sounds like u fine tuned your dose.

I am staying with androgenic and with use primo and anavar for protien synthesis.

I had a scare with hgh and bloat and edema in hands from bulkers last time.

I am doing the switch to long esters and tren e low, sust, primo and mast with var.
Using most of what I have and with fill in with more soon.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Back on my game! Feeling better so it's time train Delts, traps and calves

Gearz

5iu Hgh

NPP 100mg

Dbol 50mg

Cialis 15mg

TEST NO ESTER 100mg

Igf1 lr3 50mcgs post training

Now guys I pose a question,
Am I spinning my wheels by running 5iu Hgh everyday w no exogenous insulin?

Reason being ,5iu Hgh will hault the pancreas marty production therefore Man I g it work harder and theoretically burning it out.

Please share experiences and any advice or knowledge....im not gunna use insulin so if the Hgh is doing more damage then good I'll stop that as well.
Thanks
Drd

I run 5 iu everyday in split doses.
If i don't use t3/t4 with it I can't stay awake but this is due to thyroid suppression hgh causes. It really suppressed mine.

I use digestive enzymes that are good and help out pancreas.

My thoughts are this, if u use it always fasted 1 hour and fast 1 hour after glucose levels will not rise to the point of pancreas having to make a bunch of insulin.

There are people who can eat 20000 cals a day and pancreas provides enough insulin, they never develops type 2 diabetes.
Type 2 is genetic BUT one has to still be overweight for long time and insulin resistance starts from too much floating around.

With type 2 diabetes people often continue to make way way too much insulin even with glucopage and still their pancreas provides even though it provides way too much

Sometimes it can get burned out and type 2 diabetic person would then needs insulin but not as common.

Type 1 body has no trouble shuttling glucose with transporter (insulin)
Their cells receptors use it with no problem.
But with type 1 diabetes their pancreas gives out and stops making insulin completely. This often happens before 12 years old and after a virus that attacks the pancreas. Type 1 person has auto-immune problem that immune system can't fight off this virus at the pancreas.

This is my way looking at if hgh will cause a problem or not. 5iu a day a doubt will cause such a problem.

My fasted glucose was running around 108
After being on hgh my fasting glucose has been 65 and 79 the other time.

My analergy of these two conditions is what I can see pancreas failing vs not.

Thanks MM

It's just my 2cents on what u understand about type 1 compared to type 2.

I know hgh increases glycogen levels in liver which also liver manufactors IGF.

The glycogen is from stored carbs or fats converted into glucose. This is one of main reasons fat burning and loss occurs.
And reason we wanna be fasted 1 hour before and after.

If not fasted glucose levels will be really high from carbs eaten= glucose and hgh making liver manufactor glycogen=glucose
This will or can cause a problem.

My thoughts or beliefs or these, if we stay pretty lean we will get to the point that we will not have much fat to be converted into glycogen and glucose levels will not continually be elevated.
Also splitting dose will be easier on not so much conversion at a time.

Another thing to keep in mind is out insulin is controlled and released with many factors with thyroid being one of them.

I believe that with thyroid suppression from hgh this can be impaired.
Most people with type 2 diabetes or non-alcohol fatty liver disease have underlying thyroid issues.

Using gear especially with hgh enough thyroid should be available for metabolism to keep up. One can developed fatty liver from having too high of BMI and sustaining too much body fat even if most of BMI is made up of muscle mass.
Body has to or stores fat around liver to fuel muscle.
This is one reason at my age if 42 I try to keep my BMI under 32 and for mind if its 29 when I am 7% bf. I would like to have BMI of 32 at 7% but it's pushing it.
This is reason today I stay between 190-210 at most.

Anyway I will research being it is a concern I should have with hgh too.
But these things above are what I learned over years and believe and is my option on how our body works with alot if things we are doing.

Hope i made sense. It's putting it into words I know others can understand what I an saying I have trouble with.

A freakin fountain of knowledge

Ty
Anytime, I love this stuff and most importantly how it all works.
Will give what my knowledge and perception anytime.

 

[Drealdeal]

And we made it!!! It's legs day mothatruckas lol
(2nd one in months)
I will be getting under the bar today my legs are a major priority for me I've rested long enough ....

Thing w me and many others[I'm sure] on legs day is that initial movement,once the muscles are engaged and activated it's go time . Kinda like skydiving u just have to jump


Gearz 2day

Test cyp 250mg

Igf1 lr3 100mcgs post training

Hgh 5iu split into two doses one in morning and the other will be later into the evening

50mg dbol

100mg TEST NO ESTER

Asin 12.5mg


I'll post routine after training

Meals are the same as my diet coach has fallen I'll as well as his lil one so I'm following what I know works for me.

Happy gaining y'all

 

[Thudgens96]

And we made it!!! It's legs day mothatruckas lol
(2nd one in months)
I will be getting under the bar today my legs are a major priority for me I've rested long enough ....

Thing w me and many others[I'm sure] on legs day is that initial movement,once the muscles are engaged and activated it's go time . Kinda like skydiving u just have to jump


Gearz 2day

Test cyp 250mg

Igf1 lr3 100mcgs post training

Hgh 5iu split into two doses one in morning and the other will be later into the evening

50mg dbol

100mg TEST NO ESTER

Asin 12.5mg


I'll post routine after training

Meals are the same as my diet coach has fallen I'll as well as his lil one so I'm following what I know works for me.

Happy gaining y'all

Leg day is the best day!#!

 

[Big Beef]

And we made it!!! It's legs day mothatruckas lol
(2nd one in months)
I will be getting under the bar today my legs are a major priority for me I've rested long enough ....

Thing w me and many others[I'm sure] on legs day is that initial movement,once the muscles are engaged and activated it's go time . Kinda like skydiving u just have to jump


Gearz 2day

Test cyp 250mg

Igf1 lr3 100mcgs post training

Hgh 5iu split into two doses one in morning and the other will be later into the evening

50mg dbol

100mg TEST NO ESTER

Asin 12.5mg


I'll post routine after training

Meals are the same as my diet coach has fallen I'll as well as his lil one so I'm following what I know works for me.

Happy gaining y'all

Personally, I hate leg day! You are right though, it is like skydiving. Especially on squats, that first set is brutal & I'm already sweating like crazy, but than it's on after that!

 

[Drealdeal]

And we made it!!! It's legs day mothatruckas lol
(2nd one in months)
I will be getting under the bar today my legs are a major priority for me I've rested long enough ....

Thing w me and many others[I'm sure] on legs day is that initial movement,once the muscles are engaged and activated it's go time . Kinda like skydiving u just have to jump


Gearz 2day

Test cyp 250mg

Igf1 lr3 100mcgs post training

Hgh 5iu split into two doses one in morning and the other will be later into the evening

50mg dbol

100mg TEST NO ESTER

Asin 12.5mg


I'll post routine after training

Meals are the same as my diet coach has fallen I'll as well as his lil one so I'm following what I know works for me.

Happy gaining y'all

Personally, I hate leg day! You are right though, it is like skydiving. Especially on squats, that first set is brutal & I'm already sweating like crazy, but than it's on after that!

Ugh. Even wrapping your arms around the bar is agony sometimes...

 

[Mountain-Man]

I live for and love leg day

 

[Drealdeal]

Legs day

Extension 5sets

Leg curls 5 sets

Skwats 5 sets pyramid up and to 315lbs ( hey it's my second day in months) and last set was till failure w 135lbs for da pump


Good girl bad girls 3 sets each [these hurt me,my v.g. cramps up]

Stiff legged db deads 4 sets


Hit some arms in between cos some machines wer occupied


Happy gaining y'all

 

[Drealdeal]

Internal8trtional chest day

Machine press 4 sets team is to the whole stack

Incline bench press 4 working sets 1 warm-up

Incline db flys heavy and with full extension
And after last fly to each set I superset with the dumbbells together and I press from center of chest until failure .

Machine dips ss w body weight dips 3 sets

Standig Pullovers cable 4 sets

Cable crossovers 5 sets

Cable crossovers 4 sets underhand grip for upper chest.

I usually hit biceps w 5 sets single arm preacher curls superset w both arms
Preacher curls

I hit these movements as hard and heavy as I can .


Gearz.r

NPP. 150mg

Tbol 40mg

Hgh 5iu split into two doses one in morning and another seven - eight hours later
Both dose Wil be 2.5IU

Tren no ester pre training 100mg

[Unfortunately I received a sub par compound ]

Aromasim @12.5mg

Meals are same well I had some and after training legs needed some glycogen and am very interested in optimizing the my natty insulin production.

Happy gaining y'all

Gearz Gearz Gearz lol.

 

[Drealdeal]

I'll post an first week pic this evening

 

[Drealdeal]

Fasted cardio starts this week 4 xs a week

 

[Drealdeal]

https://youtu.be/Srns7NiO278

 

[Drealdeal]

Food

 

[Chad_Frazier]

There he is! Going to be a fun ride my brother.