Who was the best and most deserving Mr.Olympia?

[Arcane1129]

I say Haney was the most dominant, because he dominated from every aspect of how the sport is judged (aesthetics, muscularity, conditioning). Though Ronnie and Dorian hung with the mass monsters and the freaky shredded guys, they didn't hang with the shawn rays and the flex wheelers of their time in regards to aesthetics. Haney hung with everybody in every regard. And on top of holding an olympia record of 8 wins, Haney retired at only 32 years old, he probably had another 5 or 6 years to rein supreme if had chosen to. It would have been interesting to see what would have transpired had he kept compteting through out the rise of Dorian in the early 90's though. Even if Dorian had beat'n him in the following years of Haney's retirement, Haney started his Olympia domination at only 25 years old, how else has done that? Now a days you're lucky if you even turn pro by 25 years old, ala Phil Heath and Even Centipani.

Good post.

 

[Duality]

you really are an idiot.

You always say shit like 'theres no evidence blah blah blah im a shitcunt blah'

i was saying that theres no such thing as factual evidence when comparing bodybuilders you daft dickhead.

if you didnt have your head up your arse all the time youd realise the difference.

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don't get too mad there, just change your tampon and move on! go jam out to some killer sweet metal tunes or something!

 

[Duality]

I say Haney was the most dominant, because he dominated from every aspect of how the sport is judged (aesthetics, muscularity, conditioning). Though Ronnie and Dorian hung with the mass monsters and the freaky shredded guys, they didn't hang with the shawn rays and the flex wheelers of their time in regards to aesthetics. Haney hung with everybody in every regard. And on top of holding an olympia record of 8 wins, Haney retired at only 32 years old, he probably had another 5 or 6 years to rein supreme if had chosen to. It would have been interesting to see what would have transpired had he kept compteting through out the rise of Dorian in the early 90's though. Even if Dorian had beat'n him in the following years of Haney's retirement, Haney started his Olympia domination at only 25 years old, how else has done that? Now a days you're lucky if you even turn pro by 25 years old, ala Phil Heath and Even Centipani.

that is true. haney was a very impressive and easily the most aesthitic of the "dominant" Mr. O's. i still think ronnie is the greatest, but it is very close and i see how one could make the arguement haney is better.

 

[Skeptic]

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don't get too mad there, just change your tampon and move on! go jam out to some killer sweet metal tunes or something!

you are honestly one of the most retarded people ive ever had to deal with. i hope for braaq's sake you have at least basic cognitive skills, face to face.

 

[Duality]

you are honestly one of the most retarded people ive ever had to deal with. i hope for braaq's sake you have at least basic cognitive skills, face to face.

have fun being your ugly fat little self! and don't talk to me anymore and i will do the same! cheers you silly chubby hardcore rocker!

 

[Skeptic]

you really are retarded. every word you say just solidifies everyones view of you

 

[Skeptic]

btw... sorry pain for hijacking the thread

 

[Duality]

you really are retarded. every word you say just solidifies everyones view of you

:gheyfight:




back to the thread!

 

[Beefcake]

Play nice fellas.

 

[Mygeeto]

id say Dorian had to be one of the least deserving.. especially when you consider the talent he was against. he just looks like plain shit compared to Kevin, Shawn, Flex and others.

 

[Braaq]

you are honestly one of the most retarded people ive ever had to deal with. i hope for braaq's sake you have at least basic cognitive skills, face to face.

In person he is a really cool guy, the type that makes friends with everyone he meets. Which is how at 19 he is one of my best friends here, I just think you two got off on a bad start. Also, it is a forum with typed out comments without knowing how the actual tone of a given message is meant to be portrayed.
If you two don't like each other that is understandable, so I just suggest you guys stop responding to each others comments. I like both you guys on here and do not want to be pulled on any side or caught in the middle.

 

[Skeptic]

I agree that i would probs get on with him face to face. but on here is another story

 

[El Freako]

You guys need to kiss and make-out. I don't mean make-up, I mean make-out, tongue and all.

 

[Hypocrisy86]

Coleman.

 

[tkD]

id say Dorian had to be one of the least deserving.. especially when you consider the talent he was against. he just looks like plain shit compared to Kevin, Shawn, Flex and others.

+10

 

[mvsf1]

Arnold is bodybuilding, Ronnie was the most developed bb ever so...

this one goes to...



Arnold

 

[BigBen]

In person he is a really cool guy, the type that makes friends with everyone he meets. Which is how at 19 he is one of my best friends here, I just think you two got off on a bad start. Also, it is a forum with typed out comments without knowing how the actual tone of a given message is meant to be portrayed.
If you two don't like each other that is understandable, so I just suggest you guys stop responding to each others comments. I like both you guys on here and do not want to be pulled on any side or caught in the middle.

I am gonna have to go with ronnie.

 

[nigster]

id say Dorian had to be one of the least deserving.. especially when you consider the talent he was against. he just looks like plain shit compared to Kevin, Shawn, Flex and others.

I have to agree with you. Very well said!

 

[Batmanx007]

I say Haney was the most dominant, because he dominated from every aspect of how the sport is judged (aesthetics, muscularity, conditioning). Though Ronnie and Dorian hung with the mass monsters and the freaky shredded guys, they didn't hang with the shawn rays and the flex wheelers of their time in regards to aesthetics. Haney hung with everybody in every regard. And on top of holding an olympia record of 8 wins, Haney retired at only 32 years old, he probably had another 5 or 6 years to rein supreme if had chosen to. It would have been interesting to see what would have transpired had he kept compteting through out the rise of Dorian in the early 90's though. Even if Dorian had beat'n him in the following years of Haney's retirement, Haney started his Olympia domination at only 25 years old, how else has done that? Now a days you're lucky if you even turn pro by 25 years old, ala Phil Heath and Even Centipani.

Really good post

 

[mvsf1]

I say Haney was the most dominant, because he dominated from every aspect of how the sport is judged (aesthetics, muscularity, conditioning). Though Ronnie and Dorian hung with the mass monsters and the freaky shredded guys, they didn't hang with the shawn rays and the flex wheelers of their time in regards to aesthetics. Haney hung with everybody in every regard. And on top of holding an olympia record of 8 wins, Haney retired at only 32 years old, he probably had another 5 or 6 years to rein supreme if had chosen to. It would have been interesting to see what would have transpired had he kept compteting through out the rise of Dorian in the early 90's though. Even if Dorian had beat'n him in the following years of Haney's retirement, Haney started his Olympia domination at only 25 years old, how else has done that? Now a days you're lucky if you even turn pro by 25 years old, ala Phil Heath and Even Centipani.

Great post and point but if you don't mind I want to comment it in:

- Yeah, Haney dominated the sport from every angle, but so did Ronnie in 98-99 or Dorian in 92. If fact, Haney was the mass monster of his time, he was the best in an era size wasn't THAT important. He didn't have to choose between freaky mass and aesthethics.

Haney won for the first time at 25, Arnold did at 23.

Haney wouldn't have beat 1993 (and maybe nor 1992) Dorian Yates. No way in hell. Don't get me wrong, Haney deserves IMO at least 6 of his 8 Olympias, if not 7, but for some reason he doens't WOW me as Arnold or Ronnie did.

IMHO Levrone 97, Flex 93 look two times better than Haney (much respect for him, I repeat) but they were born 5-10 years too late.

Anyway, GREAT post.