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Great detail bro. Everything looks good & well thought out. The winny & anadrol together is interesting. I would like to read some results of those 2 together. I've never tried adrol, so I will do it solo first time, of course. I have a hell of a wish list going on right now & mast p is one of them. Never done mast. I realize there is obviously an ester difference between mast e & mast p, but do you prefer one over the other? I have learned that I really enjoy these short esters, so I am leaning towards prop, but not sure.
I like mast prop better low dosed on cruise.

But love mast prop at 150 a day on cut
I ran tren ace at 50 s day with mast prop at 150 and test prop at 30 with great results!!

I like mast e on lean bulk and 800-1200 depending

I like to use mast e build up keep in there then start mast p and then it's from both ends and much higher in blood!!

So that is my take.

Winny I ran alot but will not unless I am under 8% and then a layer not known exists comes out. But only if lean
I will keep winny 3 weeks at most only during this time had bad liver and cholecystitis from injectable winny around 12 years ago, scared me ran 5 weeks 75mg everyday.

But Anadrol I always feared for some reason. So hadn't tried till recent but ran M1T and Superdrol and pheraflex lots of times.
Super simular to anadrol but more toxic and 10mg = 50mg Anadrol super makes big and full but hard. It's dimethyl masterone as dbol if methyl bolenone (eq)

But I feel Anadrol can put on clean fullness and hold size while staying lean if already lean.

Mast i use to offset aromatase and stop bloat when in lean bulk like with deca.

But it shines below 10%

Stay doing what u doing get lean her yourself at 13% then start next cut and go below. Always hold your 13-14% on bulk and om cut get 8% or better.
U will see exactly what they doing
 
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Great detail bro. Everything looks good & well thought out. The winny & anadrol together is interesting. I would like to read some results of those 2 together. I've never tried adrol, so I will do it solo first time, of course. I have a hell of a wish list going on right now & mast p is one of them. Never done mast. I realize there is obviously an ester difference between mast e & mast p, but do you prefer one over the other? I have learned that I really enjoy these short esters, so I am leaning towards prop, but not sure.

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& I have never done winny either, btw. Not that it matters, but I forgot to add that.
Also winny good at taking place if proviron and winny lowers progest from tren!!!
And 20-30mg does it.
I may work up to 40-50mg
They are mv4 team pure stanzol so they g2g!!!
I will use the adrol to give me fullness but also because I am gonna go high intensity and diet will be cut down alot and completely clean.
Dirty will be peanut butter for fat energy a spoon when needed for energy
And a parfait with fruit and granola that is dirty if u see where I am going
Diet will post tomorrow evening.
I am still calculating it all up!!
 
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That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.
 
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Thanks to a very valuable member of our community above @Ketsugo I thought things thru.

He mentioned certain orals and or liquid orals!!!

I have horrible cases of indigestion and gastro issues from liquid Cialis and other liquid orals. My own Anavar I made already was brutal!!!

So here I am remembering I am on liquid adex and ran out MB4 TEAM proviron and other brand I had I was on in February last time I had this cramping gas.

So m4bteam need proviron here please!!!

I worked out legs today hammered them.
Knees hurt so took while to warm up and get oil to pistons.

Didn't write workout down
But did
Standing leg press
Lying leg press
Squats
Calf raises
Leg extension
Leg Curls

Stopped working out abs for now because I am getting too much of muscle belly protruding!!

Bf is really low it's low!!...

Gear injects for now
-Tren a 50mg
-Test p 75mg
-Mast p 75mg
-Primo ace 100mg
-Mast E 100 eod

Orals for now
-Adding in winny 20-40mg a day for now
Take place of Proviron I dropped
-Nolva 10mg a day
-Aromasin 12.5 my eod for now
-Will add Anadrol at 25mg a day then 50mg a day
-Cialis 12.5mg a day
-Cabar 0.5mg 2x week

Thyroid & hgh
-T3 45mcg
-T4 100mcg
-Hgh 5iu a day split

-MT2 200MCG 3x wk

Will post food tomorrow lol!!
But it's clean as can be.
Eggs, cheeses, chicken breast, salad, nuts, berries.
Diet time!!

And again @Ketsugo a big motivator on high intensity and gonna cut the rug.
Put muscle under load without rest back and forth like a drilling machine!!
Cardio great atm and muscles are not getting lactic acids in them at all!!!

So tren is back but less.
Winny and Anadrol will step up.
Low dose not gonna kill liver but gonna do there deed!!!
I like that plan brother roll with it
 
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Sounds like u ran Alpha1
That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.
 
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I would never run M1T again. Too strong and toxic and gains are short lived.

But I do use Superdrol from 10-20mg a day at most at least 1x per year and I am totally good and recover no problem 30 days use max!!!

Alpha1 (Methyl-1-Etiocholenolol-Epietiocholanolone -) is what it sounds like u ran. Nothing else especially unmethylated compares to M1T in mass gains!!!

I also have some Methyl Stenabolone (Msten) I use this too. Similar to super with less hardening a little more mass. Closer to Anadrol in my option. But max dose I run is 20-30mg a day of Msten.

I have ran and still several designer steroids and know good ones.

M-DIEN was safer than M-tren and stronger than anything else but M-tren in hardening.

Also the unmethyl Dienolone precursor was good oral for hardening tren like safer than methyl dien or M-tren.

Another one that I love for hardening better than tbol and anavar by far EPISTANE!!
alot of places carry. I run this one at 30mg a day. 40mg fine but I go easy on all orals except Anavar!!!
That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.
 
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Feel great back on tren ace and my combo.
I haven't added the winny or Anadrol yet!

Will wait and figure out timing!! I only wanna be on winny and Anadrol from 2-1/2 weeks max!! No more!!

My diet is completely clean and craved cake last night but only had a taste of 2 kinds.
I am still having some white carbs but warding off sweets, fried foods, just bad stuff!!.
It's 90% clean though.
On go today water park with kids. Almost there. Fun in sun and water.
Got my Terminator sun glasses on!!! What!
Y'all have a great Sunday!
Today is for rest or enjoyment with our loved ones!!!!
 
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Sounds like u ran Alpha1
That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.

Yes! That was it. I just looked it up.
 
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I would never run M1T again. Too strong and toxic and gains are short lived.

But I do use Superdrol from 10-20mg a day at most at least 1x per year and I am totally good and recover no problem 30 days use max!!!

Alpha1 (Methyl-1-Etiocholenolol-Epietiocholanolone -) is what it sounds like u ran. Nothing else especially unmethylated compares to M1T in mass gains!!!

I also have some Methyl Stenabolone (Msten) I use this too. Similar to super with less hardening a little more mass. Closer to Anadrol in my option. But max dose I run is 20-30mg a day of Msten.

I have ran and still several designer steroids and know good ones.

M-DIEN was safer than M-tren and stronger than anything else but M-tren in hardening.

Also the unmethyl Dienolone precursor was good oral for hardening tren like safer than methyl dien or M-tren.

Another one that I love for hardening better than tbol and anavar by far EPISTANE!!
alot of places carry. I run this one at 30mg a day. 40mg fine but I go easy on all orals except Anavar!!!
That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.

I am actually familiar with all those prohormones. Only tried one that you listed, but I used to do a lot of research on all of them. From what I've read, there is probably more good reviews for superdrol than any other designer steroid that I can remember. Always wanted to try it, just haven't got my hands on it yet. Probably soon. I will try the m1t & superdrol at least once & see how it does for me. I knew epistane was supposed to be good, but I did not know it was THAT good. Interesting though. You also just reminded me to throw var on my list..
 
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Epistane is a methylated version of Epistanol an androgen anti estro for men with gyno in Japan!
And look at what methylation or di-methylation does to a steroid.

Masteron is mild but Superdrol is methyl-drostanolone (methyl Mast)

And D-Bol is or Eq is un-methyl Boldenone
D-Bol was first then they made Eq.

Also test1cyp (dihydroboldenone) is Methyl as M1T

Tren vs M-tren

Very different by methyl group added.
They don't even have same Anabolic:Androgenic ratios and can behave very different due to liver conversion to active amounts in blood and absorption of much much more instantly.

But of course I took all designers there was a place or 2 domestic that sold raw powder by the gram with research Chems 100% grey area but legal to buy or posess.
I used roids for 20 years cycle blast cruise everyway and took all legal conveniet routes and tried them after research on self when they were ready available.

I capped and made liquid oils even injects with some. They were $80 at supp shop but 10-20$ a gram that made more than the 60 count at supp shop.
Too cheap to not enjoy and find the good ones and research from Vida's research.
Epistane available at lots of raw shops and serveral UGL but it's not cheap.
Msten even more than mast and mast around same as Superdrol.

I use super low end 20mg at most but used 40 back in day.
Epistane is very good stuff but I heard some are not responders. I am a responder!!
Pheraflex another good stuff (Madol)
I know a place that has many on our side of pond.

I would never run M1T again. Too strong and toxic and gains are short lived.

But I do use Superdrol from 10-20mg a day at most at least 1x per year and I am totally good and recover no problem 30 days use max!!!

Alpha1 (Methyl-1-Etiocholenolol-Epietiocholanolone -) is what it sounds like u ran. Nothing else especially unmethylated compares to M1T in mass gains!!!

I also have some Methyl Stenabolone (Msten) I use this too. Similar to super with less hardening a little more mass. Closer to Anadrol in my option. But max dose I run is 20-30mg a day of Msten.

I have ran and still several designer steroids and know good ones.

M-DIEN was safer than M-tren and stronger than anything else but M-tren in hardening.

Also the unmethyl Dienolone precursor was good oral for hardening tren like safer than methyl dien or M-tren.

Another one that I love for hardening better than tbol and anavar by far EPISTANE!!
alot of places carry. I run this one at 30mg a day. 40mg fine but I go easy on all orals except Anavar!!!
That is all very helpful. I'll have to remember that. If I can, I may just try both mast prop & e. M1t & superdrol are 2 others I want to give a go, but haven't yet. I ran a 1 andro prohormone in the past, but for people that had tried M1t as well, said that it wasn't nearly as strong. Which says something because I got great results with that prohormone! Halo is another I want to try, but have not.

I am actually familiar with all those prohormones. Only tried one that you listed, but I used to do a lot of research on all of them. From what I've read, there is probably more good reviews for superdrol than any other designer steroid that I can remember. Always wanted to try it, just haven't got my hands on it yet. Probably soon. I will try the m1t & superdrol at least once & see how it does for me. I knew epistane was supposed to be good, but I did not know it was THAT good. Interesting though. You also just reminded me to throw var on my list..
 

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Work Out early in morning .
Food today
Meal 1
4 eggs on carb smart wheat tortilla
Meal 2
White rice 1/3 cup, serving peas, cabbage, black eyes and chicken quarters and breast baked skinless.
Meal 3
Salad pomegranate vinigerrette fat free
Feta cheese, grapes, apples chicken breast
Meal 4
2% milk special k cerial and 1/2 banana
Meal 5
Fat free yogurt

Was in water swimming all day with kids. Am dark, with MT2 am using.... holy molly
Photo tomorrow.

Gear injects
Tren a 50mg
Test p 75mg
Mast p 100mg
Primo ace 100mg

Nolva 10mg
Cialis 12.5mg
Proviron 50mg only (last of mb4) not trying other ugl until later but they good just may have something that messes with stomach
Will find nail in wood pile.
Cabar 0.5mg 2x week
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
Have mb4 letro for later and adex caps from UGL g2g

T3 45mcg
T4 100mcg
Hgh 5iu a day split

MT2 200MCG 3x wk

ARIMASTANE 75mg

No Anavar ATM
Will use Winny soon and Anadrol but not yet...

Work Out in morning bed time early early I will nail it...
Bf% is very low!!!
 
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Photos pre bed, went take leak out if bed and took while tanned. Lol
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Looking shredded brother
Told my wife last night, wait am holding back for timing and cause I got TRT labs in July.
Hopefully I will pull some old school tricks I did years ago..
Lol!!
 
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Work out chest
Bench press 1x20 2x12 4x6 2x9
Incline bench 4x8 2x12
Pec deck 5x9 3x15
Tricept Push down 6x8 3x13

It worked. Was at old home gym wore out muscle on what I worked with..

Meal 1
4 eggs, riccota cheese and wheat tortilla
Meal 2
White rice, peas, black eyes, chicken.breast
Meal 3
Fruit protien smoothy
Meal 4
Lean ground meat, bowl of lettuce and feta cheese with cherry tomatoes
Meal 5
Special k cereal. 2%milk

Not as clean today but pretty good.
Close to 3000 cals!!

Gear
-Test p 75mg ed
-Mast p 75mg ed
-Using mast e too extra 200 wk or so
-Primo ace 75mg ed
-Using primo e too extra 200 wk or so
-Tren ace 50 mg atm ed

-Proviron 50mg ed last of mb4 team not many left
Have other proviron I know are legit saving till later if I use. They may disagree with stomach
-nolva 10mg ed
-aromasin 12.5 eod
-Cialis 12.5 mg ed
- Cabar 0.5mg 2x

- t3 45mcg
- t4 100mcg
- Hgh 5iu a day split

-MT2 200mcg 3x wk

As stated winny will be added later at low dose and Anadrol too low dose. Not yet...

May add methyl sten pre workout for a week then others above.

Really lean
Height 5'8"
Weight 190-192 since being sick last week.

Got in phentermine but they for woman
And ment e but they for later!! Beautiful though.

Would love some MB4 Team gear with store credit!! Lol
But if i get new job will afford.
Either way I am gonna need stock of gear as my stash getting low and i have to have my gear bar....
Lol!
 
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I like that rep range you’re running with. Good combo for short and long twitch fibers and like always a well thought out and very educated plan. Your an artist of it.
 
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As always Mechanic... great detail.
 
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Thanks for the visit..
Always appriciated!!
Slowed intensity for a little while gonna get fuller with these ranges of reps then pick it up.
U always recognize exactly what I am doing.
Experienced it shows!!
I like that rep range you’re running with. Good combo for short and long twitch fibers and like always a well thought out and very educated plan. Your an artist of it.
 
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Thanks for the visit..
Always appriciated!!
Slowed intensity for a little while gonna get fuller with these ranges of reps then pick it up.
U always recognize exactly what I am doing.
Experienced it shows!!
I like that rep range you’re running with. Good combo for short and long twitch fibers and like always a well thought out and very educated plan. Your an artist of it.

I’m just watching and learning. I always keep my eye on the pros. Keep it up bro.
 
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Thanks for the visit..
Always appriciated!!
Slowed intensity for a little while gonna get fuller with these ranges of reps then pick it up.
U always recognize exactly what I am doing.
Experienced it shows!!
I like that rep range you’re running with. Good combo for short and long twitch fibers and like always a well thought out and very educated plan. Your an artist of it.

I’m just watching and learning. I always keep my eye on the pros. Keep it up bro.
Lol!! I am just a guy with a family that loves to pump iron and use gear. Don't wanna be old, look it, or feel it!!!

Also the way we think and use this stuff reg folks would never understand but it's how we wired.

I have met 99% all good guys through these channels that all live to make world a better place that gotta earn everything they have and don't want anything that is not!!!

If the media and public in general would only know the real us. Huh!!!
 
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