Official MMA News/Discussion Thread

[CaptainCharisma]

that was Shogun and Liddell getting beat the fuck down...honestly i dont even think it was close, it seemed almost like for the most part the 2 of them were amateurs

 

[fallen]

Yeah i was shocked to be honest I thought that Forrest and Shogun might be close but I always thought Shogun would win. I thought after seeing Jardine get ko'ed the way he did I thought Chuck would win also.

 

[Kanav]

Shogun didnt fight...like AT ALL. If you're even remotely familiar with his previous fights, you would know this isnt even the same guy.

Shogun is a finisher, he comes in with so much energy and just presses the fight.

Yesterday was disgusting. He had no enthusiasm. Didnt try anything and got tired in the SECOND round. Which is like him being tired in the first round by Pride standards, and for shogun to be gassed within ten minutes is beyond shocking, especially considering how little he did.

Im starting to think that ufc might be rigged.

 

[JS316]

Shogun blew his load in the 1st round.. forrest was in better shape.

I don't wanna say this but I know they don't test for steroids in Japan.. just throwing it out there for debate.

Take nothing away from the UFC fighters.. they are schooling the pride boys.

As for chuck.. needs to lose his pot belly! seriously though, the guys 38 now, he had a good run.

UFC 75 was a great show all up

 

[Minchinator]

Wow, I guess Liddell's age may be catching up with him, I really thought he would knock out Jardine within the first two rounds - really the first. As for the big name pride fighters coming over and sucking I don't get it. Maybe it is the drug thing, maybe it is the cage thing, I don't know, but it is dissapointing to somebody like me who has never really seen them fight, just heard of them, and was really looking forward to finally seeing them. I hope the Fedor does not come over and crap out, I can't see that happening, but I thought the same thing of Mirko from all I had heard about him.

Who does Forrest fight now? Does he get a title shot, surely he has to win at least one more big fight before that because of his loss to Jardine? The Axe Murderer? How about Houston Alexander, that could be a fun fight to watch from what we have seen of him.

 

[Kanav]

im kinda hoping for forrest vs. wandy now

 

[Tech]

Wow, I guess Liddell's age may be catching up with him

or his fighting style is too predictable.

 

[Tech]

im kinda hoping for forrest vs. wandy now

I think they should finally have silva/liddell.

neither Wanderlei or Chuck are getting any younger. the fight will still be a huge draw. but it needs to happen soon.

 

[Kanav]

I think they should finally have silva/liddell.

neither Wanderlei or Chuck are getting any younger. the fight will still be a huge draw. but it needs to happen soon.

yeah but Dana White kept repeating how Chuck needed to win this fight in order to fight Wanderlei. They've both lost their last two fights, it might be devastating for the loser of their fight if they're forced to face right now.

They might still be pretty professional about it, but alot of these guys are getting psyched out (ESPECIALLY the pride guys). Im hoping wanderlei doesnt flake out, cuz his aggression in fights is ridiculous.

wandys reaction to chuck's loss: (notice that loser mayhem in the side)

 

[CaptainCharisma]

lol mayhem is jokes

 

[JS316]

thats priceless from mayhem...lol!

gotta be forrest vs housten now..

 

[fallen]

Yeah I really hope Wandy does better than the rest of the Pride guys. Only Rampage has really held up to the hype which is funny cuz he didn't have near as much hype as any of the other Pride fighters. Mayhem is retarded, Silvia looked in disbelief most of the fight.

 

[CaptainCharisma]

Silva's angry cause he wants to fuck Chuck

 

[onebigeric]

Silva's coming off two straight(and more dramatic) losses as well; I see he and Chuck still going for December as a billed 'redemption' match.

My overall thoughts:

Forrest, Forrest, Forrest!!! I was yelling through a good portion of that fight Shogun has a habit of gassing, and I feel it's unfortunate that he didn't prepare a little more for his debut. Although it probably didn't help that Forrest practically gave him a fetus on the left side of his head All and the same, Griffin's finish was an awesome cap to an incredibly surprising fight. Forrest really validated himself in it; everyone remember that slick omaplata he nearly finished Shogun with? His countless spin-outs to Shogun's attempts to pick a leg? Standing and on the ground, he's come a long way since TUF1.

Fitch should've had a unanimous nod over Diego, but a win's a win. Snachez looked intense as crap from the start, but I feel having his original rush and takedown stuffed really shocked him. He kept throwing his legs in his guard and Fitch made him pay every time with those side-stradles and viscious face shots. Diego looked to be in excellent form, and he was, but Fitch is simply a better fighter. Hat's off to both of them though

Tyson Griffin is still a maniac. That is all

Machida has been railed for not being able to put Nakamura away, but the lame masses(Rogan definitely included here) don't realize that top Asian fighters routinely eat concrete in order to make them nearly IMPOSSIBLE to knock out. Lyoto landed some horrendous shots, and considering Nakamura's background as a judoka fighter, he displayed an amazing amount of fortitude. Machida is still a top-notch fighter, and I really hope we see Nakamura again soon.

Jardine's win was a little quizzical to me, but it was a win all the same. That's why I hate judges in MMA(Cecil Peoples especially)- Keith won the second round on the fact that he dropped Chuck for about three seconds, whereas Chuck's dominance of Jardine throughout the rest of the round(and near finish of him to boot) was quickly forgotten in the face of a semi 'highlight' moment. The way that Rogan kept saying it should've been a 10-8 round made me want to shove a piece of rebar through his skull Such. An. Idiot. The way I saw it, it was Chuck easily in the first and slightly in the second. The third was all Jardine, and his kicks were viscious throughout. I'd have the split for Chuck, but such is uneducated judging. Seriously, a homeless-outreach program could do a better job of calling the action than most of the judges Zuffa finds.

All and all, it was an excellent event. Chuck's loss was the only smudge for me, but it was minor in the face of Fitch and Forrest dominance

 

[Kanav]

Im hearing wanderlei is calling out forrest to avenge shoguns loss

run forrest run

 

[fallen]

Im hearing wanderlei is calling out forrest to avenge shoguns loss

run forrest run

didn't Wanderlei leave Chute Box though, but i guess they are still friends

 

[PUMBA]

yeah but Dana White kept repeating how Chuck needed to win this fight in order to fight Wanderlei. They've both lost their last two fights, it might be devastating for the loser of their fight if they're forced to face right now.

They might still be pretty professional about it, but alot of these guys are getting psyched out (ESPECIALLY the pride guys). Im hoping wanderlei doesnt flake out, cuz his aggression in fights is ridiculous.

wandys reaction to chuck's loss: (notice that loser mayhem in the side)

I think Silva was thinking of the dollars that just got flushed, less people will want to watch two, two time losses, but in reality you'd watch these two fight each other at age 50 lol.

 

[JS316]

Silva's coming off two straight(and more dramatic) losses as well; I see he and Chuck still going for December as a billed 'redemption' match.

My overall thoughts:

Forrest, Forrest, Forrest!!! I was yelling through a good portion of that fight Shogun has a habit of gassing, and I feel it's unfortunate that he didn't prepare a little more for his debut. Although it probably didn't help that Forrest practically gave him a fetus on the left side of his head All and the same, Griffin's finish was an awesome cap to an incredibly surprising fight. Forrest really validated himself in it; everyone remember that slick omaplata he nearly finished Shogun with? His countless spin-outs to Shogun's attempts to pick a leg? Standing and on the ground, he's come a long way since TUF1.

Fitch should've had a unanimous nod over Diego, but a win's a win. Snachez looked intense as crap from the start, but I feel having his original rush and takedown stuffed really shocked him. He kept throwing his legs in his guard and Fitch made him pay every time with those side-stradles and viscious face shots. Diego looked to be in excellent form, and he was, but Fitch is simply a better fighter. Hat's off to both of them though

Tyson Griffin is still a maniac. That is all

Machida has been railed for not being able to put Nakamura away, but the lame masses(Rogan definitely included here) don't realize that top Asian fighters routinely eat concrete in order to make them nearly IMPOSSIBLE to knock out. Lyoto landed some horrendous shots, and considering Nakamura's background as a judoka fighter, he displayed an amazing amount of fortitude. Machida is still a top-notch fighter, and I really hope we see Nakamura again soon.

Jardine's win was a little quizzical to me, but it was a win all the same. That's why I hate judges in MMA(Cecil Peoples especially)- Keith won the second round on the fact that he dropped Chuck for about three seconds, whereas Chuck's dominance of Jardine throughout the rest of the round(and near finish of him to boot) was quickly forgotten in the face of a semi 'highlight' moment. The way that Rogan kept saying it should've been a 10-8 round made me want to shove a piece of rebar through his skull Such. An. Idiot. The way I saw it, it was Chuck easily in the first and slightly in the second. The third was all Jardine, and his kicks were viscious throughout. I'd have the split for Chuck, but such is uneducated judging. Seriously, a homeless-outreach program could do a better job of calling the action than most of the judges Zuffa finds.

All and all, it was an excellent event. Chuck's loss was the only smudge for me, but it was minor in the face of Fitch and Forrest dominance

Nice post

I thought Tyson Griffen was lucky to win..i thought the other guy was in a dominant position for alot of the match.. i was hoping for a draw.

I didn't even know Machida and Nakamura fought. They didn't show it here..gutted as I like both fighters.

Not sure I agree with you on Liddell winning the 2nd round. Thought Jardines big punch landing was enough to take it. Other than that big punch they seemed to be evenly trading. Just my opinion though.

Agree on your Forrest/Shogun analysis.

 

[Kanav]

I think Silva was thinking of the dollars that just got flushed, less people will want to watch two, two time losses, but in reality you'd watch these two fight each other at age 50 lol.

I just think its idiotic that we have to beg for this fight to happen. Theres too much demand for this fight, and since the UFC now writes the rules, they can make this happen with ease.

Its getting annoying now.

 

[fallen]

I just think its idiotic that we have to beg for this fight to happen. Theres too much demand for this fight, and since the UFC now writes the rules, they can make this happen with ease.

Its getting annoying now.

True but i'm sure when Dana said that, he thought Chuck would win easy