Ironslave
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I agree with his sentiment and patriotism, but I do not agree with taking the law into your own hands. If this was a regularly thing we would be in a state of anarchy.
It would upset me seeing a Mexican flag above an American flag on the same pole. I don't mind seeing them at the same height on two separate poles though. With the owner standing outside the front displaying like he is wanting a response then it is deserved.
Patriotism for what?
Who cares, they're just pieces of fabric, and I'm sure as Tech said, he wasn't renouncing America hoping it burns in hell. He was standing outside because some lunatic was coming to his store with a knife, most likely, he wasn't looking for trouble.
you're way too patriotic, Braaq.
Oh gaawwwd, I am not even going to start with this. He was a veteran and took offense for the lack of respect being shown for the country he fought for (in his eyes). Lets just put at at that is an opinion, I can say the same that you are overly pessimistic or unpatriotic and that is not any better.
Regardless of what he faught for... who cares? They're two pieces of fabric at different heights. Maybe the owner is more proud of his Mexican roots, or maybe it was just a pure coincidence. Regardless of how colluded the veteran's logic is, there is absolutely nothing to justify this behavior. I hope he faces full prosecution.
In Canada IS we do not carry the same affection and sense of duty and respect towards our flag. However that doesn't denigrate the symbol the American flag is. There are certain cultural rules we all expect each other to abide by. Domestic abuse is illegal in North America, but encouraged in some countries, when immigrants come here we expect them to treat their wives and families well. They may view that law as petty and inconsequential, but to us, equal treatment and freedom from fear of physical violence is one of the things our country aspires to. Jim has fought for that flag. That flag is a symbol of what he finds right about his country. In America it is customary and expected that you fly that flag at the top of the post. The American flag is steeped in tradition and sentiment. One cannot spit in the face of that much tradition and sentiment and not expect a reaction. The phrase "When in rome" applies here (though this is not an excuse for unlawful behavior). You are bound to get a reaction from people who have emotionally invested a great deal into that flag or any such symbol, like a cross for instance.
Just to sum up. I do not agree with his methods or actions. But I do understand his sentiments and where he is coming from.
WRONG!they're just pieces of fabric
WRONG!
Then the swastika is just a cross with a couple extra lines in it.
Why are all those Jews so offended?
It's symbolic.
this guy thinks America is better than Mexico, and the rest of the world, (which is certainly his right to think so). However, his arrogance about it led him to break a law, instead of respecting the expression and rights of another person. Again, this kind of attitude is so indicative of why the rest of the world hates America, its narcassism.
The swastika represents a regime that indiscriminately killed hundreds of thousands, probably even millions of people in a brutal fashion simply because of their religion.
And the negative connotation of the Mexican flag is?...
It is symbolic though, you are right about that, this guy thinks America is better than Mexico, and the rest of the world, (which is certainly his right to think so). However, his arrogance about it led him to break a law, instead of respecting the expression and rights of another person. Again, this kind of attitude is so indicative of why the rest of the world hates America, its narcassism.
The flag definitely stands for the American dream, it represents hope, what our founders believed in. It is our countries nature to take that risk and make things work because that is exactly how our country was founded by taking a risk fighting a war and winning freedom from Great Britain( colonies) In all reality the revolution occurred b/c the poor folks were tired of being poor, and the rich folks were finally restricted enough economically by law to do something about it.
With that said, i do agree that he should follow the laws of this country as a citizen of this country.
He wasn't harming anyone, or saying "I hate America" or doing anything along those lines...
Americans need to get over themselves thinking they're better than everyone else, that's a reason why many people around the world hate them.