2010 IFBB New York Pro - competitors, updates, info & pics!

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sooo, why does it wreak of idiocy?

Eh, I was sorta drunk. Sorry about that. I just found the statement a bit obnoxious at the time, as it did little but stir the pot. We were in a conversation and your post felt like a meaningless outside jab that deters actual debate-derived progress. Still, I shouldn't have implied your idiocy as I did.

everything you said means shit for someone who needs/wants to win.

First -- no one ever needs to win a bodybuilding show, or any professional athletic contest for that matter. And though I realize that pro bodybuilders make considerably less than other athletes and, moreover, that not every contestant is guaranteed a check, the lion's share of their earnings come in the form of endorsements, guest posings, side jobs, etc. Sure, success on stage does give way to success off of it, but there's still marketability for non-winning professionals, still other jobs out there to ascertain, and still plenty of ways to make a living without winning shows. If one's ego is so fragile that they feel they need to win in order to soften the slams to their psyche, well, then that's just sad.

Second -- you, to my knowledge, cannot read minds. I tried to avoid making implications about how others see the sport and be as objective - yet conversationally relevant - as possible. Conversely, you're surmised summation about the competitive mindset, which offers a handful of token examples as pseudo-proofs to its validity, reads as more than a little ignorant and, furthermore, is off topic. The issue here isn't why bodybuilders use synthol; we're not debating its existence or usage. My qualm is with you advocating furthered use by otherwise untainted, if you will, professionals. I find this pretty reprehensible.

As you said.. its life, he can either except his shitty biceps and inturn lower placings and be pushed out of the top whatever by the likes of Martinez or he can do something about it and i think he is the first one who realised his biceps are beyond shite before anyone else and i`m pretty sure hes done a lot to try and remedy the problem but clearly it hasnt changed.

This directly contradicts the point you made in your last post that he could improve his biceps over time. So which is it? You suggest that synthol will expedite the winning process when, mind you, no proof is given that usage equates better placings (especially as the noticeable presence of synthol is supposed to deter the judges from awarding a particular physique) or that he's unwilling to make the strides it takes to become a champion. You're supporting taking a competitive shortcut, which, again, is reprehensible.

I`m not saying to synthol to the point of milos (check 99 O) but just a bit to reduce (not cure) the ultra obvious weakness.

Dosage does not matter at all here.

Its not that such thigns have become acceptable.. its the fact that others are doing it to help their weak bodyparts. You become a victim of your own honourable conscience, going into a competition and taking all the stress and dangers of Pro BB knowing full well there are others "using" it and so you have potential for a lower placing

I'm pretty sure you need a correlation study between usage and placings before positing that using synthol does, in fact, help placings. And yet this would still ignore everything stated above about income. Winnings supplement what bodybuilders earn offstage -- it's rarely the other way around.

In that picture of Ronnie, Dex and flex.
Dex > we can clearly see his use
Flex> One of the other TOP pros had stated he has implants in his calfs
Ronne > His calves are no different to dex from that angle... I`m not sayign he has used but werent his calves ALSO a horrible weakness?

Your examples are old and irrelevant. I'm not saying synthol is or isn't prominent in the pro ranks anymore, but fixing marked discrepancies in one's physique, as the case with Frankhouser would be, is going the way of the buffalo. 10-year old examples, save Vic who appears to have ditched the habit, just don't cut it in a sport that's only a few decades old and, again-again, this is hardly the main point of conversation.

 

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Jeff Long: Arms @ 2 weeks out

 

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updated official list of competitors

202's

 

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backstage pic of Wolf from Pittsburgh's guestposing, @ 1 week out

 

[Mike33]

I think Wolf looks good Hope he does well at New York! Wolf and Roelly is my favorites and ofcourse Hide =)

 

[mrq4400]

nothing new with Wolf, looks like he forgot to diet again.

 

[ddragaon]

nothing new with Wolf, looks like he forgot to diet again.

This is the best picture of Denis from the PITT. guest pose and he looks good.
I hope he wins at New York show.

 

[MrChewiebitums]

Eh, I was sorta drunk. Sorry about that. I just found the statement a bit obnoxious at the time, as it did little but stir the pot. We were in a conversation and your post felt like a meaningless outside jab that deters actual debate-derived progress. Still, I shouldn't have implied your idiocy as I did.

First -- no one ever needs to win a bodybuilding show, or any professional athletic contest for that matter. And though I realize that pro bodybuilders make considerably less than other athletes and, moreover, that not every contestant is guaranteed a check, the lion's share of their earnings come in the form of endorsements, guest posings, side jobs, etc. Sure, success on stage does give way to success off of it, but there's still marketability for non-winning professionals, still other jobs out there to ascertain, and still plenty of ways to make a living without winning shows. If one's ego is so fragile that they feel they need to win in order to soften the slams to their psyche, well, then that's just sad.

Second -- you, to my knowledge, cannot read minds. I tried to avoid making implications about how others see the sport and be as objective - yet conversationally relevant - as possible. Conversely, you're surmised summation about the competitive mindset, which offers a handful of token examples as pseudo-proofs to its validity, reads as more than a little ignorant and, furthermore, is off topic. The issue here isn't why bodybuilders use synthol; we're not debating its existence or usage. My qualm is with you advocating furthered use by otherwise untainted, if you will, professionals. I find this pretty reprehensible.


This directly contradicts the point you made in your last post that he could improve his biceps over time. So which is it? You suggest that synthol will expedite the winning process when, mind you, no proof is given that usage equates better placings (especially as the noticeable presence of synthol is supposed to deter the judges from awarding a particular physique) or that he's unwilling to make the strides it takes to become a champion. You're supporting taking a competitive shortcut, which, again, is reprehensible.

Dosage does not matter at all here.

I'm pretty sure you need a correlation study between usage and placings before positing that using synthol does, in fact, help placings. And yet this would still ignore everything stated above about income. Winnings supplement what bodybuilders earn offstage -- it's rarely the other way around.

Your examples are old and irrelevant. I'm not saying synthol is or isn't prominent in the pro ranks anymore, but fixing marked discrepancies in one's physique, as the case with Frankhouser would be, is going the way of the buffalo. 10-year old examples, save Vic who appears to have ditched the habit, just don't cut it in a sport that's only a few decades old and, again-again, this is hardly the main point of conversation.

sigh.. its really not that important in the end and i dont feeling like trying to justice something like synthol anyway.

 

[Bulkboy]

Still, I shouldn't have implied your idiocy as I did.

LMAO oh man, you're killing me here

 

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3 days out, 289 lbs!!

 

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Roelly Winklaar 3 Days from 2010 New York Pro - Last Workout

 

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Dennis Wolf's preparation for the NY Pro

 

[Natzo]

The Roelly vid is awesome!

 

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those triceps alone are a beast!

 

[Beau]

Wolf hasn't improved the areas he needed to at all...

 

[Natzo]

hehe! Wincklaar FTW!

 

[Natzo]

This NYP has huge importance this year!
let's see.

Freeman : after the disaster in Phoenix and a late call in ASC this is the show that Toney has to prove that he can still hang with the big boys and win shows and most importantly compete with the new breed that will be biting his feet at the O.

Roelly : The show that hopefully will make him the new threat in BB and a future first spot competitor in any show.

Wolf : The show to show that Wolf still can be Wolf..the potencial candidate and MR. O threat. If he fails and ends up out of the top 2 game over this year.

Pakulski : reinforce his potencial, if he does well here , he will be able to run against the big boys in bigger shows.

Hide: needs a consistent spot, to match his O aspirations.

Dohne : confirm his potencial to enter bigger shows.

Fankhouser: same has Dohne.

 

[The big king]

Toneys back shot looks impressive!

 

[pakiman]

You know you are ready when your tricpe is larger (yet leaner) than your traineR herself...

this is outrageous

 

[The King Of Lurkers]

Fuck Roelly must have at least 10 pounds of tricep on each arm