Big Beef m4bteam transformation

[Big Beef]

Took a day off from the gym. Lot of shit going on last couple days & staying busy. It was needed anyway

Gear: 20 mg dbol, 500 mg sus. Pinned 250 mg today

Sups/vitamins: multivitamin, glucosamine, milk thistle, taurine, zinc, potassium gluconate & niacin. Been taking all since the start of log, except zinc & milk thistle

Hang in there brother

We all need a break.
Don't let it get to u, be grateful look at all the things in life u have in these times and give yourself a break!!

Right on bro. I'm good. Just getting some things lined out so I can get some steady work. Thanks

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Took a day off from the gym. Lot of shit going on last couple days & staying busy. It was needed anyway

Gear: 20 mg dbol, 500 mg sus. Pinned 250 mg today

Sups/vitamins: multivitamin, glucosamine, milk thistle, taurine, zinc, potassium gluconate & niacin. Been taking all since the start of log, except zinc & milk thistle

Hang in there brother

We all need a break.
Don't let it get to u, be grateful look at all the things in life u have in these times and give yourself a break!!

Right on bro. I'm good. Just getting some things lined out so I can get some steady work. Thanks

Anytime brother. I have stayed close to u and followed u since we met over a year ago.
I will give a a cut stack advice
Until then if u don't bloat on test go up on your sust only right now.
And when u gonna add it will be androgenic compound or 2.
Let's get u more veiny and bowled up!!

 

[Big Beef]

Enjoying some kratum tonight, so I'm a little extra chatty lol. Been debating on getting some npp soon. Not sure if it's the right move or not. I am probably going to bump the dbol up to 30 mg in the next day or 2. Will be 500 mg sustanon & 30 mg of dbol. I will also throw clen in last couple weeks of cycle, to focus on getting lean at the end. Week 5 or 6 will end dbol, so as of right now, it will be just sus. I feel like I need a little something else to add in though. Probably do a little more research on npp now & figure out what I want to do

U are ready for a stack like that brother I have known your whole history.

But my advice is find something more androgenic with no progest nature at this time.

More androgen receptor binding and more androgenic = fat loss.
U are a big dude lots of muscle.
For this transformation I would like to see u come out on a good cut.

Let me clear my thoughts and will give u a recommendation to follow thru with from now and then cut.

Maybe even stay where u are go up on test only to 750.
Drop dbol soon.
Then add in your cut.
For u will say 8-10 week cut phase.
If u follow thru u will not regret it.

I will come back with some advice on a plan for you

Glad I finally got some feedback on that. Appreciate it. I was talking to a buddy & he is a big fan of npp. Told me some of his thoughts on it & something I've wanted to try, but still debating. Definitely doing it before deca!

As far as a cut, the only thing I had planned is to get better with my diet & throw in some clen in the last few weeks with my sus & possibly on into pct. Also have winny, if needed. Just listing available sups, in case that helps

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Took a day off from the gym. Lot of shit going on last couple days & staying busy. It was needed anyway

Gear: 20 mg dbol, 500 mg sus. Pinned 250 mg today

Sups/vitamins: multivitamin, glucosamine, milk thistle, taurine, zinc, potassium gluconate & niacin. Been taking all since the start of log, except zinc & milk thistle

Hang in there brother

We all need a break.
Don't let it get to u, be grateful look at all the things in life u have in these times and give yourself a break!!

Right on bro. I'm good. Just getting some things lined out so I can get some steady work. Thanks

Anytime brother. I have stayed close to u and followed u since we met over a year ago.
I will give a a cut stack advice
Until then if u don't bloat on test go up on your sust only right now.
And when u gonna add it will be androgenic compound or 2.
Let's get u more veiny and bowled up!!

Yes you have. Looking forward to your suggestions. I'm actually getting ready to cook some healthy foods in a mi. Planning it out!

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Enjoying some kratum tonight, so I'm a little extra chatty lol. Been debating on getting some npp soon. Not sure if it's the right move or not. I am probably going to bump the dbol up to 30 mg in the next day or 2. Will be 500 mg sustanon & 30 mg of dbol. I will also throw clen in last couple weeks of cycle, to focus on getting lean at the end. Week 5 or 6 will end dbol, so as of right now, it will be just sus. I feel like I need a little something else to add in though. Probably do a little more research on npp now & figure out what I want to do

U are ready for a stack like that brother I have known your whole history.

But my advice is find something more androgenic with no progest nature at this time.

More androgen receptor binding and more androgenic = fat loss.
U are a big dude lots of muscle.
For this transformation I would like to see u come out on a good cut.

Let me clear my thoughts and will give u a recommendation to follow thru with from now and then cut.

Maybe even stay where u are go up on test only to 750.
Drop dbol soon.
Then add in your cut.
For u will say 8-10 week cut phase.
If u follow thru u will not regret it.

I will come back with some advice on a plan for you

Glad I finally got some feedback on that. Appreciate it. I was talking to a buddy & he is a big fan of npp. Told me some of his thoughts on it & something I've wanted to try, but still debating. Definitely doing it before deca!

As far as a cut, the only thing I had planned is to get better with my diet & throw in some clen in the last few weeks with my sus & possibly on into pct. Also have winny, if needed. Just listing available sups, in case that helps

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Took a day off from the gym. Lot of shit going on last couple days & staying busy. It was needed anyway

Gear: 20 mg dbol, 500 mg sus. Pinned 250 mg today

Sups/vitamins: multivitamin, glucosamine, milk thistle, taurine, zinc, potassium gluconate & niacin. Been taking all since the start of log, except zinc & milk thistle

Hang in there brother

We all need a break.
Don't let it get to u, be grateful look at all the things in life u have in these times and give yourself a break!!

Right on bro. I'm good. Just getting some things lined out so I can get some steady work. Thanks

Anytime brother. I have stayed close to u and followed u since we met over a year ago.
I will give a a cut stack advice
Until then if u don't bloat on test go up on your sust only right now.
And when u gonna add it will be androgenic compound or 2.
Let's get u more veiny and bowled up!!

Yes you have. Looking forward to your suggestions. I'm actually getting ready to cook some healthy foods in a mi. Planning it out!

Let's hold off prolly on npp till next cycle.
Better yet let me count weeks left total.
I will give u cut plan that will work good if u follow it.
Let's try and get u losing fat while gaining muscle.

I will get it all down in a little while after looking at weeks for planning.
I want u to drop 10lbs
Then will want u to
Run test p low, tren ace higher than test p.
Mast p or proviron or both.
And t3 50mcg Maybe going up to more slowly depending on how u feel. It can make u hot all the time
But 50mcg will work and get fat burning gear will hold muscle
Your clen will work syntergesic with t3.
And your winny can go towards end.
Save your liver brother if u can u may not need the winny!!!!

Do your research on T3 I assure u that the reward will get u in a healthy place and then u can maintain it.

So it's your choice I want u to have as little sides with tren a as possible so need u to lose 10lbs before adding last 6 weeks.
Trust me on this.
U can start t3 when u ready though.
It's fine to run 50mcg all the way thru and let's look into getting u some MK 677 to increase natty hgh levels to help with fat loss!!!

I will make u a golden stack u can afford and wire me if u have to I may be able to help u on some things if u short.

 

[Big Beef]

Looks like a solid plan man & I appreciate the offer with the help if I was short, but I should be able to handle it. Gotta do some financial figuring first. Only thing I am a little skiddish about doing this cycle is tren! Did it last cycle & was pretty rough... kind of wanted to wait on that one.

I will bump my test up to 600 + a week for the next few weeks & will continue on after that with test prop. Am good on test prop, at least for now. I will need to get some t3 (will be doing research on this immediately) & most likely pick up some mast prop as well. Need to do some more research on mast prop too. Never used either. I know a solid place that I think has MK677, so I will look into that & see if they do. If I get mast prop, I will run it the rest of the way through. Will run sus until week 12, start prop after that, run mast all the way if I get it & I need to figure out how long to run the t3 & mk677. Not sure where to throw in clen with all that...

 

[Big Beef]

If I'm not going with npp this cycle, I will probably hold off on mast prop as well. At least for now. Grab those both at some point in the future & just get it all together. I did look into both t3 & Mk677 & I found a good place to pick those up at! Pretty happy about that. Just need to figure in dosage & how much I will need. How long to run & all that

 

[Muscle mechanic]

If I'm not going with npp this cycle, I will probably hold off on mast prop as well. At least for now. Grab those both at some point in the future & just get it all together. I did look into both t3 & Mk677 & I found a good place to pick those up at! Pretty happy about that. Just need to figure in dosage & how much I will need. How long to run & all that

T3 u will need 50mcg everyday min.
U can go up some week to week.
But I would run 50mcg straight thru.
I feel no sides at t3/t4 mix 50mcg of each.
In your case u can use the ramp up method but I sugest use both t3 and t4.
Use 50mcg t3 and 100mcg t4 to start or just straight thru.

Clen is added on to t3/t4 and run normal on and off with clen.

Mast or proviron has an added benifit of binding to androgen receptors and tighly!!
The stronger binding the more fat loss.
Tren has 500 androgenic rating reason it burns fat and androgenic compounds stimute CNS as well. Heating us up burning fat.

So look for non-aromatase steroids that are androgenic.
Another option is Stanolone injectable!!!
I know a place that has it and it's cheaper than mast as cheap as test prop and stronger than mast but hairline is the worry not with me!

The way to run tren ace is this way for beginners or those who dont tolerate well.
Test prop 50mg eod
Tren ace 65-70 eod
Or split in daily doses
Keeping test max of around 150-200wk
And tren ace around 300-350wk
Mast prop helps with sides from tren
And adds to free test and less estro the dose u need is min of 75 a day
Provirin at 50mg a day adds in same way and adds on.
U end up with being fine with 10mg nolva a day and mast, proviron, tren, with low test u will have no issue with estro
Still use a small dose of adex at 0.5mg at 3x week to cut at most this route.

The t3 helps with tren as well tren lowers t3 so the t3 helps too.

Cabar 0.5@2×wk benifitial very sex drive up and feel good!!

U gotta tell yourself this is for a purpose and stay cool as ice.

Losing the 10lbs before tren ace will help with sides by keeping bp lower.

I will give u recommendation or copy my cut with lower doses and exclude primo.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

We have15 weeks left of this comp!!!

For next 8 weeks do this.
Sust or test long ester 600mg
Mast E start up run 600-800wk
U want to increase ratios of free test and androgenic binding to kill fat stores.
Start nolva at 10mg a day a starve estro feed fat!!!
If u want u can use npp but I wouldn't
add mk677 25mg at night
add cabar 0.5 mg 2xwk
add t3 50mcg first thing in morning on empty stomach DO NOT EAT OR DRINK NOTHING BUT WATER FOR 30 MINUTES
ADD T4 100 mcg same time as t3
u not using mast to get grainy u using to add androgenic binding and cause
Leptin, produced in adipose tissue, influences the functioning of the testes directly and indirectly. ... Adiposetissue is involved in the metabolism ofandrogen to estrogen known to be converted by ARO found in fattissue.Aug 31, 2013
Example of function above
At week 8 drop off of long test switch to prop 50mg eod
keep mast in
keep t3/t4 in
weight benefit of mk677
look into ipamorrilin and mod grf 1-29
Cheaper than hgh
Add provirin in week 6 left to go
Add tren ace in same time
Use prop 150-200wk
Use tren ace around 300 wk
With rest
ADD in winny last 3 weeks 50mg to 75mg a day

This is cut for u brother

 

[Muscle mechanic]

U gotta hope on t3 and hgh enhancer either mk677 for 6 weeks
Then ipamorilin 100mcg in morning with
Mod grf 1-29 100mcg in morning and at night do 200 mod and 300 ipamorilin
Or 100mcg if each 2-3x day
U gotta get this fat burning going thru thus route with dry androgenic compounds
This is trick
Gain some muscle now keep as dry as possible then cut route

Add t3 in all the way thru use clen off and on
Follow brother and your plan is there

 

[Big Beef]

U gotta hope on t3 and hgh enhancer either mk677 for 6 weeks
Then ipamorilin 100mcg in morning with
Mod grf 1-29 100mcg in morning and at night do 200 mod and 300 ipamorilin
Or 100mcg if each 2-3x day
U gotta get this fat burning going thru thus route with dry androgenic compounds
This is trick
Gain some muscle now keep as dry as possible then cut route

Add t3 in all the way thru use clen off and on
Follow brother and your plan is there

Alright bro. I'll have to read that a few times & think about it, as it is a lot to take in. I can afford the t3 for the remainder of cycle & MK677 (really looking forward to running), but I won't be getting t4 & definitely cannot get mast p or e. I want to run mast, but I unfortunately have to wait. I am gtg on proviron & will be ready to throw that in when needed. This is what I got so far...

Dbol: weeks 1-6
Sus: weeks 1-12
Test prop: weeks 13-16
T3: weeks 7-16
MK677: weeks 7-15
Clen: weeks 14-16

Watcha think??? This is just an estimate of what I can do based off what I have or will have

 

[Big Beef]

Excellent arm day today! I think I'll stick to the routine I did, for a while

Biceps, triceps, abs & cardio

Cardio: 11 mins run/walk

Crunch machine: 3 sets of 25, 20, 20

Dumbbell concentration curls: 4 sets 25, 15, 10, 10 drop set on all sets

Dumbbell skull crushers: 4 sets of 20, 12, 12, 12 drop set all sets

Single arm preacher curl machine: 4 sets of 15, 10, 7, 7 drop set all sets

Single arm rope press down: 4 sets of 20, 15, 12, 12 drop set all sets

Single arm cable curl: 3 sets of 20, 15, 12 drop set all sets

Ez bar press down: 3 sets of 20, 15, 12

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Alright bro. I'll have to read that a few times & think about it, as it is a lot to take in. I can afford the t3 for the remainder of cycle & MK677 (really looking forward to running), but I won't be getting t4 & definitely cannot get mast p or e. I want to run mast, but I unfortunately have to wait. I am gtg on proviron & will be ready to throw that in when needed. This is what I got so far...

Dbol: weeks 1-6
Sus: weeks 1-12
Test prop: weeks 13-16
T3: weeks 7-16
MK677: weeks 7-15
Clen: weeks 14-16

Watcha think??? This is just an estimate of what I can do based off what I have or will have[/QUOTE]

What u gonna dose t3?
Start at 50mcg
I will be here and other guys too if u need to go up from there but I would run it straight thru may be go up last 3 weeks a little each week.

I wanna see winny last 3 weeks
And proviron last 6
And nolva at 10mg a day maybe
With aromasin at 12.5 eod esp towards end.
Adex cool though but can over dose easier.

And u wanna run clen for 1 wk on 1 off for at least 4 weeks to 6 weeks
So on around 3 weeks total.

Other than that u should be ok
U can look into NPP if u keep test low towards end if no tren.

An anabolic to hold muscle that doesn't aromatase good even if not androgenic
Proviron and winny will safice
So u can run prop 50mg eod and npp at say 100 eod!!!
But add Nolva if so cause u will need less AI this way

 

[Big Beef]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

 

[Mountain-Man]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

 

[Push50]

I start t3 out at 50mcg for 2-3 days then go to 75mcg for another 5-7 then bump to 100 and stay there. I usually couple it with clen 2on/2off working up to 120mcg before tapering back down. Don’t take it preworkout unless you take it in the morning and workouts are in the evening. Just my opinion

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

This man MM taught me this trick I was afraid of. Me and my wife!!!
She lost 41 lbs!!! In a few months and is off t3 atm and still losing noe that she jumped her metabolism

 

[Big Beef]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

The plan right now is to start at 50 mcg & just go from there. See how it feels & bump it up when I feel I'm comfortable with it

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I start t3 out at 50mcg for 2-3 days then go to 75mcg for another 5-7 then bump to 100 and stay there. I usually couple it with clen 2on/2off working up to 120mcg before tapering back down. Don’t take it preworkout unless you take it in the morning and workouts are in the evening. Just my opinion

That sounds like a good plan. Why do you say don't take it pre workout?

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Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

This man MM taught me this trick I was afraid of. Me and my wife!!!
She lost 41 lbs!!! In a few months and is off t3 atm and still losing noe that she jumped her metabolism

That's some serious weight loss!

 

[Big Beef]

Fellas... I generally don't bitch about a bad night, but this was one for the books!!!

I just got single out of a long term relationship some weeks ago & figured I would have some fun. Sooo, I went on a date with this chick & while we're out, I went to scratch my chin & when I did it, my hand slipped & I drove my thumb straight into my eye!! Just trying to be tough for now, so I'll cover it for a day & see what happens, before I spend money on a dr. Than, I am toughing all that out & trying to make this date work, so I take her back to my place. We get there & I'll be damn if my ex didn't show up! Drama central!!! Needless to say... I've had better dates! Don't think I'll be seeing that one again lol. Figured you all would get a laugh out of that

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Oh... & I didn't make it to the gym. Diet was shit too because of the date. Killing legs tomorrow!

 

[Push50]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

The plan right now is to start at 50 mcg & just go from there. See how it feels & bump it up when I feel I'm comfortable with it

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I start t3 out at 50mcg for 2-3 days then go to 75mcg for another 5-7 then bump to 100 and stay there. I usually couple it with clen 2on/2off working up to 120mcg before tapering back down. Don’t take it preworkout unless you take it in the morning and workouts are in the evening. Just my opinion

That sounds like a good plan. Why do you say don't take it pre workout?

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Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

This man MM taught me this trick I was afraid of. Me and my wife!!!
She lost 41 lbs!!! In a few months and is off t3 atm and still losing noe that she jumped her metabolism

That's some serious weight loss!

If I take clen and t3 preworkout my heart rate gets very high sometimes to the point of causing an anxiety attack. Everyone is different and I just find it best for myself to take it post workout and in the morning so that I’m not trying to sleep with and increased heart rate.

 

[Muscle mechanic]

Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

The plan right now is to start at 50 mcg & just go from there. See how it feels & bump it up when I feel I'm comfortable with it

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I start t3 out at 50mcg for 2-3 days then go to 75mcg for another 5-7 then bump to 100 and stay there. I usually couple it with clen 2on/2off working up to 120mcg before tapering back down. Don’t take it preworkout unless you take it in the morning and workouts are in the evening. Just my opinion

That sounds like a good plan. Why do you say don't take it pre workout?

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Alright than. I will start t3 at 50 mcg. Also, I will run adex when needed & I am VERY careful with it! Ran it to high before, so I am extra cautious. I will try that dosing protocol with the npp, if I get the funds for it

How high will u ramp up ,I have years of experience with t3 and sometimes guys speak bad about it but I know used correctly it's a power and safe CUTTING tool

This man MM taught me this trick I was afraid of. Me and my wife!!!
She lost 41 lbs!!! In a few months and is off t3 atm and still losing noe that she jumped her metabolism

That's some serious weight loss!

If I take clen and t3 preworkout my heart rate gets very high sometimes to the point of causing an anxiety attack. Everyone is different and I just find it best for myself to take it post workout and in the morning so that I’m not trying to sleep with and increased heart rate.

Corect brother.
If any stims are taken awareness of bp and heart rate important always monitor load capacity we can handle.
And stims should be taken in morning so they increase metabolism all day and we get proper rest at night.

Plan and simple it is best to workout first thing in morning!! We are naturally more anabolic, we have fasted in our sleep and will have best result to HGH self administered, Natural, or stimulated!!!
Our muscles will take on insulin we produce after eating when done with workout. Sensitivity is most after fasting glucose and workout!!
Plus not only we naturally anabolic in morning but when we workout with nothing in tank but protien low carb like 2 grams our body will be forced to make liver covert stored fats into glycogen.
This causes fat loss!!!

Stims in A.M. workout in A.M.
It's hard for me to get into routine too but it's necessary I am forcing A.M. workouts
ATM before work done!!!!!

I take stims for adhd, in morning and at lunch.
So I take no other stims anymore like clen for example

But like push said u may not wanna use stims pre-workout, but I do after assessing tolerance.
Most importantly I know my capacity and heart rate working out. U should check your heart rate working out and under different loads of work or cardio.
The u should monitor it while on any new stims.
With myself Clen never bothered me when I took it long ago in ways of heart rate or anxiety. But I have been on Ritalin then Adderall most of my life. Only took Clen at a time I was off adhd meds.
Sides I got were headache. I dosed it high max dose range and took the tablets from good overseas Pharma's.