Guitars

[RUBRSHN]

If someone was looking to pick out a guitar to learn on their own (let's say this person is me) what would you suggest? Some el-cheapo walmart jobbie so I can get my "picking" down? Or is there a good brand that you would recommend starting with? I get bored at night so I'm looking at expanding my mind (without any drugs). ;-)

 

[Skeptic]

Well i always recommend people get a cheap guitar at the start purely becuase you dont know how you're gonna like it. You dont wana go out and buy a $1000+ guitar just to find out you hate it. So yeah, buy a cheap guitar (dont just buy any piece of shit guitar though, there are cheap good guitars and cheap shit guitars), see how you go, work on your technique, have some fun with it, and see how you go, id say, after about 6 months, if you're playing/practicing solidly, by all means go out and buy a guitar you like/want.

 

[Skeptic]

to learn on your own. A couple things to start off... TAB. Open Chords. Bar Chords. Pentatonic Scale.

With the chords learn Major Minor and 7th.

Learn how to read rhythm. There is no music without rhythm. There are NO decent musicians that dont have a good sense of rhythm.

These are the main basic things about playing guitar.

 

[Rocky]

Nice thread.

I've been playing guitar for about 16 yrs. (Not so much lately cos of time constraints).

managed to get into a repsected popular music course which had young guitarists of the year as students along with me so felt pretty good to have got in - there were only a few on the course.

Been in a few bands (not since I moved though) and did demos with pretty decent producers who had worked with well known artists. And we played the MTV building a couple of times in London and got interviewed for a late night entertainment programme.

Just play for pleasure now when I can although I miss being in a band, playing live and being in the studio.

My set up is pretty scaled back now with a Gibson Epiphone with twin humbucker and single coil pickup setup, a didtech effects pedal, Marshall valvestate 2 x 12" amp, and I have a couple of acoustics and a digital multitracker to lay down tracks at home when I can.

Favourite guitarists:

1. Steve Vai
2. Joe Satriani
3. Yngwie Malmsteen

 

[Skeptic]

nice one rocky!! nice to see another muso in here! What kinda stuff didyou/do you play? Id imagine after 16 years you would have amassed a shiteload of experience in the studio and stuff.

Ive never been in a stable band... so not too much gigging or studio work for me

 

[Flex]

Just downloaded some David Lee Roth albums, man they sucked. Steve Vai, Jason Becker, DLR, such a waste of talent.

 

[Skeptic]

couldnt have said it better myself HAHA. That band kinda launched their careers somewhat though. So its not all bad

 

[thedon]

rolling stone top 100 guitarist

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend

 

[thedon]

51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

 

[thedon]

rolling stone 25 most underrated guitarists

1. Prince
2. Kurt Cobain
3. Neil Young
4. George Harrison
5. Ace Frehley
6. Mike McCready
7. Lindsey Buckingham
8. Mick Taylor
9. Nels Cline
10. Johnny Greenwood
11. Tom Verlaine
12. Carrie Brownstein
13. Mick Jones
14. Robert Fripp
15. Johnny Marr
16. John Frusciante
17. Izzy Stradlin
18. Daniel Johns
19. Vernon Reid
20. Robbie Robertson
21. Mick Ronson
22. Billy Corgan
23. Elliott Smith
24. Eddie Hazel
25. Phil Keaggy

can't argue with prince, never been a big cobain fan though

 

[thedon]

top guitar solos

1.
song: Stairway to Heaven
guitarist: Jimmy Page
band: Led Zeppelin
album: Led Zeppelin IV
2.
song: Eruption
guitarist: Eddie Van Halen
band: Van Halen
album: Van Halen
3
song: Freebird
guitarist: Collins/Rossington
band: Lynyrd Skynyrd
album: Pronounced Leh-nerd Skin-nerd
4.
song: Comfortably Numb
guitarist: David Gilmour
band: Pink Floyd
album: The Wall
5.
song: All Along the Watchtower
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: Jimi Hendrix Experience
album: Electric Ladyland

6.
song: November Rain
guitarist: Slash
band: Guns n’ Roses
album: Use Your Illusion I

7.
song: One
guitarist: Kirk Hammet
band: Metallica
album: And Justice for All

8.
song: Hotel California
guitarist: Don Felder/Joe Walsh
band: The Eagles
album: Hotel California

9.
song: Crazy Train
guitarist: Randy Rhoads
band: Ozzy Ozbourne
album: Blizzard of Ozz

10.
song: Crossroads
guitarist: Eric Clapton
band: Cream
album: Wheels of Fire

11.
song: Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: Jimi Hendrix
album: Electric Ladyland

12.
song: Johnny B. Goode
guitarist: Chuck Berry
band: Chuck Berry
album: Chuck Berry Is On Top

13.
song: Texas Flood
guitarist: Stevie Ray Vaughan
band: Stevie Ray Vaughan
album: Texas Flood

14.
song: Layla
guitarist: Clapton/Allman
band: Derek and the Dominoes
album: Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs

15.
song: Floods
guitarist: Dimebag Darrel
band: Pantera
album: The Great Southern Trendkill

16.
song: Heartbreaker
guitarist: Jimmy Page
band: Led Zeppelin
album: Led Zeppelin II

17.
song: Cliffs of Dover
guitarist: Eric Johnson
band: Eric Johnson
album: Ah Via Musicom

18.
song: Little Wing
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: Jimi Hendrix Experience
album: Axis: Bold as Love

19.
song: Highway Star
guitarist: Ritchie Blackmore
band: Deep Purple
album: Machine Head

20.
song: Bohemian Rhapsody
guitarist: Brian May
band: Queen
album: A Night at the Opera

21.
song: Time
guitarist: David Gilmour
band: Pink Floyd
album: Dark Side of the Moon

22.
song: Sultans of Swing
guitarist: Mark Knopfler
band: Dire Straits
album: Dire Straits

23.
song: Bulls on Parade
guitarist: Tom Morello
band: Rage Against the Machine
album: Evil Empire

24.
song: Fade to Black
guitarist: Kirk Hammet
band: Metallica
album: Ride the Lightning

25.
song: Aqualung
guitarist: Martin Barre
band: Jethro Tull
album: Aqualung

26.
song: Smells Like Teen Spirit
guitarist: Kurt Cobain
band: Nirvana
album: Nevermind

27.
song: Pride and Joy
guitarist: Stevie Ray Vaughan
band: Stevie Ray Vaughan
album: Texas Flood

28.
song: Mr. Crowley
guitarist: Randy Rhoads
band: Ozzy Ozbourne
album: Blizzard of Oz

29.
song: For the Love of God
guitarist: Steve Vai
band: Steve Vai
album: Passion and Warfare

30.
song: Surfing With the Alien
guitarist: Joe Satriani
band: Joe Satriani
album: Surfing With the Alien

31.
song: Stranglehold
guitarist: Ted Nugent
band: Ted Nugent
album: Ted Nugent

32.
song: Machine Gun
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: Jimi Hendrix
album: Band of Gypsies

33.
song: The Thrill is Gone
guitarist: B.B. King
band: B.B. King
album: Completely Well

34.
song: Paranoid Android
guitarist: Jonny Greenwood
band: Radiohead
album: OK Computer

35.
song: Cemetery Gates
guitarist: Dimebag Darrel
band: Pantera
album: Cowboys From Hell

36.
song: Black Star
guitarist: Yngwie Malmsteen
band: Yngwie Malmsteen
album: Rising Force
more: Black Star tab

37.
song: Sweet Child O’ Mine
guitarist: Slash
band: Guns n’ Roses
album: Appetite for Destruction

38.
song: Whole Lotta Love
guitarist: Jimmy Page
band: Led Zeppelin
album: Led Zeppelin II

39.
song: Cortez the Killer
guitarist: Neil Young
band: Neil Young
album: Zuma

40.
song: Reelin’ In the Years
guitarist: Elliot Randall
band: Steely Dan
album: Can’t Buy a Thrill

41.
song: Brighton Rock
guitarist: Brian May
band:Queen
album: Sheer Heart Attack

42.
song: While My Guitar Gently Weeps
guitarist: Eric Clapton
band: The Beatles
album: The White Album

43.
song: Sharp Dressed Man
guitarist: Billy Gibbons
band: ZZ Top
album: Eliminator

44.
song: Alive
guitarist: Mike McCready
band: Pearl Jam
album: Ten

45.
song: Light My Fire
guitarist: Robby Krieger
band: The Doors
album: Doors

46.
song: Hot For Teacher
guitarist: Eddie Van Halen
band: Van Halen
album: 1984

47.
song: Jessica
guitarist: Dickey Betts
band: The Allman Brothers
album: Brothers and Sisters
tab: Jessica tab
48.
song: Sympathy for the Devil
guitarist: Keith Richards
band: The Rolling Stones
album: Beggar’s Banquet

49.
song: Europa
guitarist: Carlos Santana
band: Santana
album: Amigos

50.
song: Shock Me
guitarist: Ace Frehley
band: Kiss
album: Love Gun

 

[thedon]

51.
song: Master of Puppets
guitarist: Kirk Hammet
band: Metallica
album: Master of Puppets
52
song: Star Spangled Banner
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: Jimi Hendrix
album: Jimi Hendrix: Woodstock
53
song: Since I’ve Been Loving You
guitarist: Jimmy Page
band: Led Zeppelin
album: Led Zeppelin III
54
song: Geek USA
guitarist: Billy Corgan
band: Smashing Pumpkins
album: Siamese Dream
55.
song: Satch Boogie
guitarist: Joe Satriani
band: Joe Satriani
album: Surfing With the Alien

56.
song: War Pigs
guitarist: Tony Iommi
band: Black Sabbath
album: Paranoid

57.
song: Walk
guitarist: Dimebag Darrel
band: Pantera
album: Vulgar Display of Power

58.
song: Cocaine
guitarist: Eric Clapton
band: Eric Clapton
album: Slowhand

59.
song: You Really Got Me
guitarist: Dave Davies
band: The Kinks
album: Kinks

60.
song: Zoot Allures
guitarist: Frank Zappa
band: Frank Zappa
album: Zoot Allures

61.
song: No More Tears
guitarist: Zakk Wylde
band: Ozzy Osbourne
album: No More Tears

62.
song: Money
guitarist: David Gilmour
band: Pink Floyd
album: Dark Side of the Moon

63.
song: Black Hole Sun
guitarist: Kim Thayil
band: Soundgarden
album: Superunknown

64.
song: Little Red Corvette
guitarist: Prince
band: Prince
album: 1999

65.
song: In Bloom
guitarist: Kurt Cobain
band: Nirvana
album: Nevermind

66.
song: Blue Sky
guitarist: Allman/Betts
band: The Allman Brothers
album: Eat a Peach
tab: Blue Sky tab (from Allmanbrothersband.com)

67.
song: Beat It
guitarist: Eddie Van Halen
band: Michael Jackson
album: Thriller

68.
song: Starship Trooper
guitarist: Steve Howe
band: Yes
album: The Yes Album

69.
song: And Your Bird Can Sing
guitarist: George Harrison
band: The Beatles
album: Revolver

70.
song: Purple Haze
guitarist: Jimi Hendrix
band: The Jimi Hendrix Experience
album: Are You Experienced?

71.
song: Maggot Brain
guitarist: Eddie Hazel
band: Funkadelic
album: Maggot Brain

72.
song: Walk This Way
guitarist: Joe Perry
band: Aeorosmith
album: Toys in the Attic

73.
song: Stash
guitarist: Trey Anastasio
band: Phish
album: A Picture of Nectar

74.
song: Lazy
guitarist: Ritchie Blackmore
band: Deep Purple
album: Machine Head

75.
song: Won’t Get Fooled Again
guitarist: Pete Townsend
band: The Who
album: Who’s Next

76.
song: Cinnamon Girl
guitarist: Neil Young
band: Neil Young and Crazy Horse
album: Everybody Knows This is Nowhere

77.
song: Man in the Box
guitarist: Jerry Cantrell
band: Alice in Chains
album: Face Lift

78.
song: Truckin’
guitarist: Jerry Garcia
band: The Grateful Dead
album: American Beauty

79.
song: Mean Street
guitarist: Eddie Van Halen
band: Van Halen
album: Fair Warning

80.
song: You Shook Me All Night Long
guitarist: Angus Young
band: AC/DC
album: Back in Black

81.
song: Sweet Jane
guitarist: Hunter/Wagner
band: The Velvet Underground
album: Loaded

82.
song: 21st Century Schizoid Man
guitarist: Robert Fripp
band: King Crimson
album: In the Court of the Crimson King

83.
song: Scuttle Buttin’
guitarist: Stevie Ray Vaughan
band: Stevie Ray Vaughan
album: Couldn’t Stand the Weather

84.
song: Santeria
guitarist: Brad Nowell
band: Sublime
album: Sublime

85.
song: Moonage Daydream
guitarist: Mick Ronson
band: David Bowie
album: The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars

86.
song: Whipping Post
guitarist: Allman/Betts
band: The Allman Brothers
album: The Allman Brothers Band

87.
song: Cult of Personality
guitarist: Vernon Reid
band: Living Color
album: Vivid

88.
song: Kid Charlemagne
guitarist: Larry Carlton
band: Steely Dan
album: The Royal Scam

89.
song: Killing in the Name
guitarist: Tom Morello
band: Rage Against the Machine
album: Rage Against the Machine

90.
song: Let it Rain
guitarist: Eric Clapton
band: Eric Clapton
album: Eric Clapton

91.
song: Heard It Thu Grapevine
guitarist: John Fogerty
band: CCR
album: Cosmo’s Factory

92.
song: Stray Cat Strut
guitarist: Brian Setzer
band: Stray Cats
album: Built for Speed

93.
song: The End
guitarist: Robbie Krieger
band: The Doors
album: The Doors

94.
song: Working Man
guitarist: Alex Lifeson
band: Rush
album: Rush

95.
song: Yellow Ledbetter
guitarist: Mike McCready
band: Pearl Jam
album: Jeremy

96.
song: Honky Tonk Women
guitarist: Keith Richards
band: The Rolling Stones
album: Let it Bleed

97.
song: Cherub Rock
guitarist: Billy Corgan
band: Smashing Pumpkins
album: Siamese Dream

98.
song: Under a Glass Moon
guitarist: John Petrucci
band: Dream Theater
album: Images & Words

99.
song: Cause We’ve Ended as Lovers
guitarist: Jeff Beck
band: Jeff Beck
album: Blow by Blow

100.
song: Three Days
guitarist: Dave Navarro
band: Jane’s Addiction
album: Ritual de lo Habitual

 

[Mygeeto]

the "Rolling Stones Top 100 Guitarists" list is retarded. lets make our own list eyy boys?

 

[Skeptic]

one question.. HOW IN LIVING FUCK did kurt cobain make the top 20 greatest guitarists?? ahead of people like santana... and jeff beck... and Mark Knopfler. Seriously. rolling stone has its head up its arse.

another thing... HOW IN LIVING FUCK did kurt cobain make ANY of these lists in the first place?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Skeptic]

and how the fuck did Randy Rhoads only make it to number 85

 

[RUBRSHN]

to learn on your own. A couple things to start off... TAB. Open Chords. Bar Chords. Pentatonic Scale.

With the chords learn Major Minor and 7th.

Learn how to read rhythm. There is no music without rhythm. There are NO decent musicians that dont have a good sense of rhythm.

These are the main basic things about playing guitar.

Thanks! That's the kinda stuff I'm talking about. And when you say "learn on your own" you mean with a book or something to show me how to hold my fingers and such? Thanks again for the help. I might have to find myself a guitar!

 

[Mygeeto]

one question.. HOW IN LIVING FUCK did kurt cobain make the top 20 greatest guitarists?? ahead of people like santana... and jeff beck... and Mark Knopfler. Seriously. rolling stone has its head up its arse.

another thing... HOW IN LIVING FUCK did kurt cobain make ANY of these lists in the first place?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!

coz he's dead i guess all of a sudden that makes a musician like heaps better than what they really are or somethin.. just like that Cliff Burton guy
i mean god forbid if all of Trivium died tomorow, theyd be worshiped non-stop and they suck soo much ass

 

[Flex]

I've seen all of those lists before and they're all extremely flawed and everyone knows it. Just look at the "top guitarists" and you'll know that. I thought Braaq was going to use that as his argument for Hammett being a top guitarist, since he's listed 11th. Rolling Stones should be shot for making something so contraversal and idiotic.

 

[Flex]

Would be very hard to make my own top 100 list, but it would probably go something like this.

1.) Steve Vai
2.) Eric Clapton
3.) Jason Becker
4.) Jimmi Hendrix
5.) Joe Satriani
6.) Paul Gilbert
7.) Marty Friedman
8.) Eric Johnson
9.) Paul Petrucci
10.) Buckethead

 

[Rocky]

Magazine lists suck balls.

Jimi always ends up number one and I agree that Cobain has no business in there.