Havoc cycle

[shivsiddh]

ok i am thinking of starting a havoc cycle, hopefully i do it right:
Hawthorne berry – preload for 2 weeks
Milk Thistle
Taurine
pct - Novedex xt ( now i know most people wont recommend this, but i wanted to stick to the legal stuff)
If there is anything missing in my list and if anyone has a better pct, please let me know.

 

[montanamuscle]

you want to stick to legal stuff, so you must want bitch tit? the rest looks ok

 

[theweapon]

thats the same way ima do it, ima take novedex xt as well

 

[theweapon]

you want to stick to legal stuff, so you must want bitch tit? the rest looks ok

ive heard with havoc your good with a Novedex PCT, i mean havoc is legal why add an illegal PCT obviously its better but i think novedex is fine, i mean i could be wrong

 

[shivsiddh]

exactly wht i was thinking ... but i need some more input on this from people please.

 

[montanamuscle]

The Weapon: you are right but why risk it... so how do you like the havoc. my old man is on a cycle right now and he seems to like it.

 

[theweapon]

The Weapon: you are right but why risk it... so how do you like the havoc. my old man is on a cycle right now and he seems to like it.

ima start in a few weeks, how much did he gain? and how many pills should i take daily? hypo told me 5, will one bottle be enough if i take 5??


and on OTC shit i dont think theres a big risk, thats just my opinion, how many people cycle AAS and not even know what a PCT is? and not notice any? ALOT! lol i dont think havoc is strong enough to give you bitch tits atleast one bottle worth, youll probably have to take alot of it for a long time IMO, like i said i could be wrong anf if i am please correct me

 

[shivsiddh]

i was thinking of taking 3 caps a day, where are u buying ur stuff from ... the cheapest i found was on supplementwarehouse.com .. so its either that or tsnnutrition for me.

 

[theweapon]

i got it off bodybuilding.com, i ordered a bunch of shit and decided to get that for later on, i thought it was fairly cheap and it got here 2 days later after i placed the order

 

[shivsiddh]

oh ok

 

[DriDDeRz]

best of luck with the havoc cycle mate, you will enjoy it if done correctly, others on this board have done a cycle of this aswel.

 

[montanamuscle]

ima start in a few weeks, how much did he gain? and how many pills should i take daily? hypo told me 5, will one bottle be enough if i take 5??


and on OTC shit i dont think theres a big risk, thats just my opinion, how many people cycle AAS and not even know what a PCT is? and not notice any? ALOT! lol i dont think havoc is strong enough to give you bitch tits atleast one bottle worth, youll probably have to take alot of it for a long time IMO, like i said i could be wrong anf if i am please correct me

yeah he has cut alot of fat with it!!( not sure on bf%) five to me seems like alot but hypo and done a couple of cycle so he would know. i thought you just did a gear cycle awhile a go? how did it go ? good luck with it man!!

 

[shivsiddh]

quick question, when should i start taking the novedex ?

 

[Napol3onator]

Havoc can be very dangerous, but I too think otc pct works fine..I just took left over 6-oxo and don't have that many days left of it, but it did fine. Take your PCT no later than a day after you finish havoc..and havoc is awesome; your gains should stay even way after your cycle is over..hell, I've been off havoc for 3 weeks and have hit 2 person bests on the bench press since; I don't think my strength is gonna decrease, and thats why I love this shit.

 

[Big04pimpin]

I took 2 caps a day split up for my second cycle of havoc and loved it. I took up to 4 a day with my first cycle but I didn't like my BP on it, but that could have been because of other stuff I was taking too like a ton of caffeine.

 

[shivsiddh]

Havoc can be very dangerous, but I too think otc pct works fine..I just took left over 6-oxo and don't have that many days left of it, but it did fine. Take your PCT no later than a day after you finish havoc..and havoc is awesome; your gains should stay even way after your cycle is over..hell, I've been off havoc for 3 weeks and have hit 2 person bests on the bench press since; I don't think my strength is gonna decrease, and thats why I love this shit.

thanks man btw what about your weight? did u keep it ?

 

[shivsiddh]

I took 2 caps a day split up for my second cycle of havoc and loved it. I took up to 4 a day with my first cycle but I didn't like my BP on it, but that could have been because of other stuff I was taking too like a ton of caffeine.

so 4 caps gave you a high bp ? cause if thats the case i will stick to 2 a day or max 3

 

[Big04pimpin]

so 4 caps gave you a high bp ? cause if thats the case i will stick to 2 a day or max 3

I would just start out at 2 and then ramp up if needed. I know I took 2 and loved it. I didn't really see a need for 4. I would feel it in my lower back a ton more with 4 But then again I would take 2 for a longer time and the 4. I am a firm believer in taking lower doses for a longer time than higher, short bursts.

 

[shivsiddh]

hmmm thanks! yeah i might just stick to 2 .. and then bump it to 3 if needed

 

[Napol3onator]

I also like taking lower dosages for longer..it stays in your system longer, because after your done with a ph, I promise one day later and you need that pct already..yea weight went from 196 to 215ish in a month..pretty good, leaner than last time around..and the only thing I hated about this stuff is that sometimes I couldn't go to sleep at all...tired all day and energetic all night..that does not mix well with life lol