• Welcome to MuscleMecca Bodybuilding Forums

    Do you love bodybuilding and events like the Olympia and the Arnold Classic? Are you interested in Bodybuilding, Fitness or building muscle? If so check out and join our bodybuilding forum! Musclemecca bodybuilding forums is one of the oldest and most popular bodybuilding, fitness forums! Some past members of Musclemecca include Phil Heath, Ronnie Coleman, Gregg Valentine and More! We have over a million bodybuilding videos, pictures and articles! We have many helpful bodybuilding enthusiasts to answer questions and give you advice on building muscle! See You In The Bodybuilding Forums!

  • musclemecca bodybuilding forums does not sell or endorse any bodybuilding products. Do not sell any bodybuilding products through musclemecca bodybuilding forums.
    Musclemecca.com has no affiliation with advertisers; they simply purchase advertising space here. If you have questions go to their site and ask them directly.
    Advertisers are responsible for the content in their forums.
UGFreak Bodybuilding Gear

Official Film Discussion and Last Movie You Watched

philosopher

Mecca V.I.P.
VIP
Joined
Jul 12, 2006
Messages
3,058
Points
0
Inception - 8/10

Pretty good movie with a strong story. makes you wonder if your livein in the real world ;)
 

Pickle

Team Winklaar
VIP
Joined
Aug 10, 2006
Messages
4,633
Points
0
Well this is insulting. I like you, Pickle, I do, but this is ignorance of the highest variety. First, your not-so random sample of movies here are pretty useless. You can't say, "Well look, the Twilight films sucked and they're rated low, so IMDB is an effective tool ipso facto." You just can't, for that's a biased, and insignificantly sized sample. Anyway, about the site, it's based on consensus. And not a consensus of the educated, mind you, and not of those working in the industry, and not of those who have seen a large variety of movies, but a consensus of everyone who can be bothered to fill out a simple registration form. Giving everyone an equal say - though, yes, "special" considerations are factored into the top 250 voting - is only going to give populist opinions. And while I'm not trying to say that placing an objective value on art is possible, this list is more akin to what movies are popular than what movies are actually good. Take a look at that top 250, for example: it is dominated by American films. This is likely due to a very large portion of their members being American, being raised on American values, and having little experience outside of American films. The first French film, for instance, appears at #47. The title?: Am?lie, which is closer in spirit to the same kind of Hollywood whimsy that proceeds it than it is to anything of relevance that's actually emerged from the French filmmaking scene. Then there's the ridiculous favoring of more recent films (like Inception, Toy Story 3, The Dark Knight, WALL-E, The Departed, Eternal Sunshine, The Lives of Others, City of God, Inglourious Basterds, Requiem for a Dream, Pan's Labyrinth, Downfall, Up, Gran Torino, Gladiator, Spirited Away, Memento, and all three Lord of the Rings films) falling within the top 100. That's 20 films, by my count, from the past 11 years (2000 and on) taking up one fifth of the supposed cr?me de la cr?me. But with all these newer films being so prevalent, I must ask where are the Tsias, the Hous, the P.T. Andersons, the Lynchs, the von Triers, the Dardennes, the Desplechins, the Coens, the Vardas, the Deniss, the Malicks, the Desplechins, the Soderbergs, the Altmans, or the Godards? Surely the folks who have actually been working hard to create new, exciting - yet relevant - cinema should be allotted space on such a prestigious list too? These are the people, and not nearly all of them, who are trying to progress an artform rather than merely entertain, sell tickets, or both. But people don't care about art. They don't care who inspired what - which is humorous as Godard's first film on the top 250 is, well, nothing while Truffauts's The 400 Blows comes in at a meager 223 despite Pulp Fiction, something largely inspired by such French New Wave directors, is #6 all-time - and instead focus only on their immediate, oftentimes visceral, reactions to films. Without the Godards, Truffauts, Rohmers, Rivettes, and Chabrols we don't have Tarantino and we certainly don't have Pulp Fiction. Those voting on IMDB, for the most part, have a very small breadth of cinema. Those posting on the forums there are the scourge of the film discussion scene. Even those inhabiting the RottenTomatoes boards, which I've abandoned out similar frustrations, rip on those at IMDB. Really, the site is an effective tool to find out who starred in what, or directed this or that, but to give any heed to its top list or ratings is an exercise in futility.

Now, I can't say I don't enjoy many of the films on the top 250 list, or that I always disagree with how the voting there goes, but to accept anything with higher than an 8 or even 9 rating is absurd. This mentality squanders actual discussion and, instead, teaches us to blindly follow the masses. Though I haven't done so personally, I can see why some of my friends have abandoned the idea of rating films; it's too convenient, and lets people get away with not talking about what they did and didn't like. Sure, it gives everyone a voice, but if the extent of that voice is used to merely state a number, then they sure as hell aren't exercising it efficiently.

In any event, I believe in what I say about films and have even mentioned in this thread some of the things I didn't like about Inception. Your counter has been nothing but the citation of a site that, as stated above, I clearly don't take seriously. So I guess we're at an impasse. That is, unless you want to talk about the actual film, where Nolan took his inspirations from, and what it has to offer in terms of social relevance or cultural conscience, in which case, I'll be all ears. You're allowed to have different tastes than me, for you see the world differently than I do. That's all well and good, but to label me merely as a contrarian is not only taking the easy way out of an argument, it's slighting someone who cares a lot about the medium.

good read, ill reply later, my reply may of sounded abrasive and it was delibrately basic but i meant no harm, i was looking merely to stir a nice response. xox
 

Line

Chaos reigns.
VIP
Joined
Jul 11, 2006
Messages
9,852
Points
0
good read, ill reply later, my reply may of sounded abrasive and it was delibrately basic but i meant no harm, i was looking merely to stir a nice response. xox
Sounds good. I too realized that my reply may have been a bit tonally aggressive, which isn't how I want to come off either. I was just a bit shocked to read that you thought I wasn't being honest, as I'm always honest. Hyperbolic? Sure! But never to the point where my true feelings are misrepresented or corrupted.
 

BigBen

Mecca V.I.P.
VIP
Joined
Jul 11, 2006
Messages
5,141
Points
38
reviewing movies is definitely not my talent, but I watched 12 monkies for the first time. I feel like not only was this brad pitt and bruce willaces best film, but that this is definitely one of if not my favorite movie purly based on the storyline and the underlining nihlistic theme.

I am actually really curious to hear what Line thinks of this film if you have watched it.
 

tim290280

Mecca V.I.P.
VIP
Joined
Jul 13, 2006
Messages
9,271
Points
0
^^ My favourite Terry Gilliam film. I don't know about the acting being fantastic but the casting was apt.

I thought that the entire film did delve into an interesting and well thought out set of parallel ideas. Namely the human psyche and time travel and consequences of each.
 

El Freako

LIFT OR DIE
VIP
Joined
Nov 12, 2006
Messages
8,262
Points
0
I watched Scott Pilgrim vs The World last night and loved it. It was entertaining from start to finish, geeky as hell and a whole lot of fun. 8/10.
 

BigBen

Mecca V.I.P.
VIP
Joined
Jul 11, 2006
Messages
5,141
Points
38
^^ My favourite Terry Gilliam film. I don't know about the acting being fantastic but the casting was apt.

I thought that the entire film did delve into an interesting and well thought out set of parallel ideas. Namely the human psyche and time travel and consequences of each.

it is a shame that I have just now watched that movie. I am going to have to look him up to see if he has any other good films.
 

Line

Chaos reigns.
VIP
Joined
Jul 11, 2006
Messages
9,852
Points
0
it is a shame that I have just now watched that movie. I am going to have to look him up to see if he has any other good films.
Brazil is solid and many people hold Time Bandits in high regard, though I can't speak to it personally. Of course, there's also Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which I'm sure you're at least remotely familiar with. Many people also like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Not me, personally, despite being a fan of Hunter S. Thompson, but many people do. As for 12 Monkeys, I too was initially wowed by it, and have seen it a few times since that first viewing, but would have to watch it again to give any real opinion of the work. I do own it though, so take that for what it's worth. For me, interest in it waned a bit after seeing the short "La Jet?e," which inspired the premise for 12 Monkeys but is without Gilliam's psychedelically surreal lensmanship. In fact, the whole thing is a series of photographs sans I think one or two actual moments of kinesis. Worth checking out though, to be sure, and can be done so here.
 

dilatedmuscle

Mecca Super-*****
VIP
Joined
Jun 5, 2007
Messages
6,087
Points
0
Hyperbolic? Sure!


Hyperbolic_Time_Chamber-1.gif
 

Similar threads

Top